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Post by n_dorphin »

Hey All,

I know this has been discussed before.
I would like to know if any one in brisbane in running straight WVO.
Would like to know if any troubles have been encountered in this climate or with running WVO.
I am not interested in doing the whole refining process.
Looking to run set up in 2.5 TD Pajero.

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Post by ISUZUROVER »

Strange Rover's (Sam) business partner (the guy standing on the rengie on the home page of this site) was running WVO in a diesel rangie for quite a while. Filtered it before putting it in the tank and ran a heat exchanger system in the tank to keep it warm.

On a DI diesel you need to run injector cleaner regularly, otherwise carbon trumpets form on the nozzles. Apart from that it should run better than on diesel.
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Post by fraisobois »

Hi

we are running the same experience in France as you can see here

http://le-pajero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1193

If you don't use an heat exanger system, you don't put more than 30% of oil.

In other case, you will need it.

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fraisobois wrote:http://le-pajero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1193
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Post by eliteforce32 »

i have two mates who run this in an old 4ltr D kroozer and an old lux, seem to go alright yet they still mix about 20-30% diesel to the oil. its filtered, one warning they have been both done, in QLD that is by qld DOT for a un-tested fuel and tax fraud :roll: , bullshit really.

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Post by wannaberacer »

eliteforce32 wrote:i have two mates who run this in an old 4ltr D kroozer and an old lux, seem to go alright yet they still mix about 20-30% diesel to the oil. its filtered, one warning they have been both done, in QLD that is by qld DOT for a un-tested fuel and tax fraud :roll: , bullshit really.

just my 2c


How did DOT know he was running it in the first place?
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Post by eliteforce32 »

because it smells like fich and chip every time u drive past, and it burns a slightly different smoke, mmmmmmm fish and chips :armsup:
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Post by n_dorphin »

Thanks all,

I am looking at filtering oil before running in car to remove chips bits etc and hopefully any water as well.

Will be installing heated 2nd tank and lines, Run from hot engine water.

Will be starting and stopping car on std diesel to look after injectors.

Any other advise?

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Post by Chucky »

Make sure you pay the government. They don't care what fuel you run in your car as long as they get the fuel tax for it.
Without tax normal diesel would only be around 48cents a litre.


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Post by ISUZUROVER »

Chucky wrote:Make sure you pay the government. They don't care what fuel you run in your car as long as they get the fuel tax for it.
Without tax normal diesel would only be around 48cents a litre.


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However, there seems to be a loophole in the laws (last I read them).

Biodiesel was originally exempt from tax and duty, however new laws (a couple of years ago) make biodiesel non-exempt.

However - there is a big difference between biodiesel (trans-ester-ified fat/oil) and straight WVO (waste vegetable oil). So if you are running the latter, and it is not specifically listed in the regulations, you could argue that it is not biodiesel and therefore not listed as being subject to duty/tax.
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Post by eliteforce32 »

but that may be true, then they will nab you for not having a 'tested fuel' in an onroad rig :roll:
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

eliteforce32 wrote:but that may be true, then they will nab you for not having a 'tested fuel' in an onroad rig :roll:


What do they mean by "tested" fuel - emissions tested? WVO is legal in many places around the world and there have been lots of tests. Some universities in Australia conducted test of diesel engines running on coconut or similar oils for the army.
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Post by eliteforce32 »

what i mean buy tested is up to speculation, as in the eyes or DOT, more so in QLD. Tested fuels mean a fuel that is commercially (SP :? ) available, at the bowser, this also includes the emissions, up tointerpretation tho ;)
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