Dumbass newbie question

Post by **Drafty** » Fri May 02, 2003 9:17 am

Mission NOT accomplished in your case. :finger:

Post by **N*A*M** » Fri May 02, 2003 11:08 am

once you start upgrading gears and tyres, stock cvs are too hard and brittle and will break sooner or later, regardless of brand.

Post by **Wendle** » Fri May 02, 2003 11:43 am

once you start driving difficult terrain, you will brake lots of OE stuff, regardless of brand.

Post by **bj on roids** » Fri May 02, 2003 3:42 pm

i do not know bj the king, but as the king bj i feel its my duty to say something here

regardless of what nam and carlton said (its true) the 80 series is arguably far stronger than the patrol CV for more reasons than one and all the details i wont go into right here, but as he stressed:

"they still break"

"maybe you have had a different experience"

so cmawwn. leave him alone, he has an opinion and is entitled to it!

Fri May 02, 2003 6:34 pm

nissan are good and stonger in diffrent thigs now do u guys belive me 35 inc tyres and diff locks make any cv go tho

Post by **RUFF** » Fri May 02, 2003 6:48 pm

I run 38.5/16/15 Claws on Hilux CVs with 2 difflocks and dual transfer cases and have not broken a CV in near 12 months.

Fri May 02, 2003 7:04 pm

pritty lucky hey shounds like a beast i dont know much about the hilux cvs only the 80 and gq s

Post by **spazbot** » Fri May 02, 2003 7:10 pm

yeah but your hilux cvs ruff have shit welded onto them

Post by **RUFF** » Fri May 02, 2003 7:19 pm

spazbot wrote:yeah but your hilux cvs ruff have shit welded onto them

Yeah so

Post by **RUFF** » Fri May 02, 2003 7:21 pm

bjtheking56@yahoo.com wrote:pritty lucky hey shounds like a beast i dont know much about the hilux cvs only the 80 and gq s

Well i can tell you now that Hilux CVS are about 1 third as strong as a patrol or 80series and i used to be able to smash them with 33s and open diffs.

Post by **bubs** » Fri May 02, 2003 7:28 pm

RUFF wrote:
spazbot wrote:yeah but your hilux cvs ruff have shit welded onto them

Yeah so

but in that 12 months how much wheel time have you done in it

Post by **RUFF** » Fri May 02, 2003 7:35 pm

Still more than you have done in your entire life. And one day in mine is harder on the gear than you have ever had on yours in its life :finger:

Fri May 02, 2003 7:38 pm

it dont mater what u drive cvs and axles etc will brake if u hit the gas hard we have oneabout to go in ur 80 as w ehave a lock right and had one wheel in a rut on a side slope and steerd away to make slop less and it didint like it now it clicks when we lift a wheel and get traction at full note lol

Post by **POS** » Fri May 02, 2003 9:18 pm

RUFF wrote:Still more than you have done in your entire life. And one day in mine is harder on the gear than you have ever had on yours in its life

C'mon RUFF, thats a bit far fetched!

I would have said 10 minutes of your driving is harder than a year of bubs peedle to the metal :lol:

Post by **Cheezy4x4** » Fri May 02, 2003 9:49 pm

80 and lockright =BOOM :lol:

Post by **bj on roids** » Sat May 03, 2003 7:13 am

RUFF wrote:Still more than you have done in your entire life. And one day in mine is harder on the gear than you have ever had on yours in its life

ROFL

Post by **Wendle** » Sat May 03, 2003 8:14 am

cush has just managed to grenade his 80 series front ring gear after 6 years of driving it like a maniac, the last 18 months or so on 39's.. still hasn't busted a CV in it. They are strong.

Post by **RUFF** » Sat May 03, 2003 8:45 am

Wendle wrote:cush has just managed to grenade his 80 series front ring gear after 6 years of driving it like a maniac, the last 18 months or so on 39's.. still hasn't busted a CV in it. They are strong.

And this was from going up an ity bity dirt hill :finger:

Post by **Wendle** » Sat May 03, 2003 10:43 am

RUFF wrote:
Wendle wrote:cush has just managed to grenade his 80 series front ring gear after 6 years of driving it like a maniac, the last 18 months or so on 39's.. still hasn't busted a CV in it. They are strong.

And this was from going up an ity bity dirt hill

hahahah... It had had chunks of metal appearing in the oil for a while.. Still funny as..

Post by **bj on roids** » Sat May 03, 2003 1:00 pm

WTF? insider gossip and i know nothing about it :(

Post by **Juzza** » Sat May 03, 2003 9:28 pm

RUFF wrote:Dale i drive a toyota not a cruiser but still its toyota and to be honost if i was looking for a touring type vehicle it would be a GQ patrol. In standard form these things can not be beaten for strength or comfort on and offroad. Yes they are a little boxy or truck like inside and out but compared to an 80 or 100 series they are a much better buy.
I beleive the nissan has a much stonger drive train than the toyota.
The 80 and 100 do seam to have a little more creature comfort inside though.

"They're boxy but they're good!"

Post by **Juzza** » Sat May 03, 2003 9:34 pm

Wendle wrote:cush has just managed to grenade his 80 series front ring gear after 6 years of driving it like a maniac, the last 18 months or so on 39's.. still hasn't busted a CV in it. They are strong.

They only seem to last a couple of months in underground mine service.
Worn out 1HZ and 7.50/16s and front diffs explode regularly and CVs are even more like a regular servive item.

Post by **Juzza** » Sat May 03, 2003 9:59 pm

Punchy wrote:
Ill agree with ruff on some of his points, but ill defend the toyota on a few other angles.

Parts are readily avaliable in the country for all models and at a fair price for what model you buy. Nissans devalue quicker and at a higher rate. Parts for a given object are always slightly more expensive per ratio to give them a "prestige" feel.
Late model nissans have issues with there manual gearboxs. toyota do not

Toyota's spare part service is overrated and quite often people are left waiting for weeks " for the boat to arrive", but Nissan is no better.
Toyota has just as many rediculous overinflated spares prices as any other manufacturer. $17 for a 100 series wheel nut is just one example.
Toyotas only gear box that is relatively free of "issues" is the 80 series box. All earlier boxes include many factory-planned failures that make Toyota lot of money with spare parts. The 100 and 78/9 series boxes have already shown themselves to be weaker than the 80 box by a considerable margin. Unfortunately with Nissan offering such abortions as the ZD30 3.0L td in the era since Renault took over the company, its hard to stick up for them either. :roll:

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue May 06, 2003 3:35 pm

From a Nissan guy, Juzzas descriptions seem highly accurate, and very unbiased. Congratulations.

Post by **fastvitara** » Tue May 06, 2003 5:12 pm

Mate, Dad owns a 100 series that has been set up for touring. ie, Koni adjustables, 33's, b/bar, winch, r/rack, compressor, drawer system, 2 fridge/freezers, kaymar rear bar with 2 spares. It does have a bit more room than our old 80 series but we are happy with the trade up. The only thing is the 80 serires felt a bit more manourverable with a lower center of gravity. As for petrol V diesel, the 6cyl petrol has solid front axel so does the standard diesel. The turbo diesel is only available with ifs. The diesels are totally different motors. Go for the 5spd though.

Tue May 06, 2003 7:49 pm

we have a lockright in 80 and cv no go boom yet one is click but that frome having wheel lifts at high revs and coimeing down and geting tration but they have been driven petal to the meadle every second weekend for the last 6 mounths befor it has started clicking 100 ser have inderpendent suspention now well some do not all

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