Rims and rear suspension question

Post by **meminiau** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:23 pm

Hi

I have been in touch with the RTA and they have told me that I can't go any wider than 7 inch rims on my NG without an Engineers inspection. Does anyone know if they are available?

Also, I want to increase the height at the rear by replacing the coils. i noticed that some people used coils from a Patrol. Why is that and which spring? I called around and found that they are the same price in Kings for and NG or a patrol. So why use patrol springs?

If patrol springs are better, why? and which model is best?

Thanks
Dean

Post by **-Scott-** » Thu May 12, 2005 5:35 pm

Hi Dean

I'm not sure I'd trust that RTA info - who did you speak to? Sometimes the people who answer the phone don't really know, and don't care enough to find out. Have a hunt on their website for their published guidelines - last I heard you could go up to 8", but not over.

People fit Patrol springs from a wrecker. Because Patrols are heavier than Pajeros the factory springs are stiffer than Pajero factory, so s/h Patrol springs are bargain priced "heavy duty" Pajero springs.

Cheers,

Scott

Post by **Hekta** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:22 am

I chose Patrol springs cuz the guy at Bowers Suspension told me the Pajero King Spings would only get me 30 - 40mm of lift and I wanted more.

Post by **grumpy221** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:01 pm

patrol springs will give it a lift have been told GQ or GU are the best for a quick lift I havent tried yet but will soon from a wrecker

Post by **meminiau** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:40 pm

And these springs will fit under an NG 1989????

Also, does anyone know what the actual lift would be? ie the distance between bottom of rim to guard?

regarding the rims, I spoke with the RTA guy with their regulations in front of me, and it is clear that the width can only be increased by 1 inch from standard.

Thanks
Dean

Post by **meminiau** » Sun May 15, 2005 12:27 pm

Come on guys...... I know someone here is the answers!!!!

Post by **grumpy221** » Sun May 15, 2005 3:06 pm

have a look here
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=23638

Brake Data

Gen 1

swb
front = NA-ND 255mm vented discs (20mm thick) single piston calipers (53.97mm pistons)
front = NE-NG 258mm vented discs (22mm thick) single piston calipers (57.15mm pistons)
rear = NA-ND 254mm drums (20.64mm wheel cylinder)
rear = NE-NG 254mm drums (22.23mm wheel cylinder)
lwb
front = NA-NE 275mm vented discs (20mm thick) single piston calipers (57.15mm pistons)
front = NF-NG (3.0V6) 276mm vented discs (22mm thick) twin piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)
rear = drums NA-ND same as swb, NE-NG same as swb
rear = NF-NG (3.0V6) 315mm solid discs (18mm thick) single piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)

Post by **meminiau** » Sun May 15, 2005 5:16 pm

Thanks for your help and the link, but I still don't know if the Patrol springs will actually fit under my NG. It's probably there on th link but I can't find it. I also was wondering if anyone who has put the nissan springs under an NG, what the measurement is from the guard to the bottom of the rim. Just so I can then measure what I have now and see if it would be worth the change in springs.

Thanks everyone for your help so far.
Dean

Post by **rhymus** » Sun May 15, 2005 6:11 pm

I have patrol springs in the back of my 88 NF LWB. From bottom of rim to guard is now 810mm. Can't remember what stock was now, but I seem to remember almost 3" difference after I fitted the springs. Best ten bucks I ever spent. Well worth the effort.

Post by **meminiau** » Sun May 15, 2005 6:53 pm

Hey Rhymus, do u have a pic somewhere??

Thanks

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:12 pm

Go the standard GQ rear coils (not GU) we worked out that standard GQ rear coils will lift a Gen 2 lwb about 2". It's probly a cheap alternative to buying new Mitsi coils. Mine runs 3" raised GQ coils and the total lift was about 5". GU's run heavier springs again so you will probly end up with more lift than you want/need if you use these.
Remember Gen 2 rear coils are stiffer than the Gen 1 versions so you will probly end up with about a 3" lift.
Note :-
- GQ Patrols (square boxy shape) = 88-98
- GU Patrols (current shape) = 98 on
I think thats right ??
Also note that we are talking about standard height rear (not front) GQ Nissan Patrol coils going into the rear of your Pajero.

Post by **meminiau** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:40 pm

Thanks heaps everyone for your help. I haven't had a great look yet for nissan springs, but one wriecker tried to sell me a pair of springs for $150 !! I can buy a brand new pair for 30 bucks more!! I guess I'll keep on looking!

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:49 pm

You could try sniffing around your local suspension places they probly throw them away

Post by **rhymus** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:50 pm

I'll try to get some pics up tomorrow. I got my springs from a bloke in qld for a tenner off ebay, cost about 30 bucks to post. Not bad money for a 3" lift.

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:51 pm

Thanks heaps everyone for your help. I haven't had a great look yet for nissan springs, but one wriecker tried to sell me a pair of springs for $150 !! I can buy a brand new pair for 30 bucks more!! I guess I'll keep on looking!

yes you can get a new pair for $140+$25 freight off me.

I have a set 2nd hand GQ standard coils in the shed if anyone is interested. I suppose I could sell them for $30 for a rear pair and I could freight them for $30.
I live at Logan Village south of Brisbane if anyone is local.
Shane

Post by **grumpy221** » Sun May 15, 2005 8:38 pm

Shane
I'll take those springs off you !!!!!! pm sent

Post by **meminiau** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:27 pm

Shane.... looks like I missed out!!!

Do you happen to have another set??

Thanks mate!
Dean

Post by **cookie monster** » Mon May 16, 2005 5:36 pm

gu (2.8td) std rear springs will lift an nl paj 4" in the rear.

cookie monster

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