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M&M Jeep D30 Hi-Steer & Tube Fenders (FINISHED PICS)

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M&M Jeep D30 Hi-Steer & Tube Fenders (FINISHED PICS)

Post by Gordo »

Just got the 1st spy pics of my TJ's D30 hi-steer being conducted at the skillful hands of Matt and Paul at M&M Custom Engineering

all I can say is SHIT HOT !!

This is how it should have been done at the factory before they smoked too much crack and thought up that demented inverted Y bullshit they called steering...

Check it out (spy shots in naked metal. Bling painted ones coming soon)

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The ugliness of what it USED to look like (pic is a flipped US model so ignore pumpkin on wrong side)

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Gordo wrote:The ugliness of what it USED to look like (pic is a flipped US model so ignore pumpkin on wrong side)

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New spy pics look good - but that pics got a few bits wrong (asside from the pumpkin ;))....
Best start with - it's not a TJ ;)
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thats what happens when a zook owner gives you a link ;)
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Post by stu »

[quote]This is how it should have been done at the factory before they smoked too much crack and thought up that demented inverted Y bullshit they called steering...[quote]


ooking good lifted panard rod bracket and a flat tie rod.....but........wait....... insn't that still techniclly still a y set-up with the steering link being fixed to the tie rod rather then the nuckle?
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Post by Thor »

yes one poor crowbar sacrificed in the name of goat beef! :cool:

and i was going to say thats an intersting sway bar on the used to look like pic :armsup:
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stu wrote:
This is how it should have been done at the factory before they smoked too much crack and thought up that demented inverted Y bullshit they called steering...


ooking good lifted panard rod bracket and a flat tie rod.....but........wait....... insn't that still techniclly still a y set-up with the steering link being fixed to the tie rod rather then the nuckle?


correct - it's technically a flip kit as true hi steer should have a complete replacement knuckle.

Maybe I should have more correctly entitled the post - beef-injected flipped jeep steer with the barest resemblance to the skanky infamous OEM inverted Y for heaps less $$ than true hi-steer :D
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Post by tigger »

That clearance looks awesome, how good would it be to get the tie rod out of the way like that :drool:
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tigger wrote:That clearance looks awesome, how good would it be to get the tie rod out of the way like that :drool:


yeah go the convo Tigman and join the rest of the free world's steering setup :D ...well at least a bit closer to it :roll:

Proper high steer knuckles would be nice eg Tera (dunno if anyone makes em in RHD) but plenty $$.

In between smelly toys n pootrolls Matt and Paul had this done in 1 day :shock:
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Missed Berridale to pick up the Goatsack from M&M this Saturday - the result ?

'KIN AWESOME !
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Very impressed with the fit and quality of both Tube Fenders and Hi-Steer.

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The Tube Fenders were made up of 4 tubes with niiiiice contours - no boxy looking edges here ! Matt and Paul at M&M really improved on the design from a few pics I supplied of the Poison Spyder tube flares. As nice as the PS ones are they were'nt gonna cut it for Aussie road laws or comp regs for that matter.

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The result is 1.6mm sheet steel for the top and 3mm for the underguard plate. These things are BEEF ! I gave the sack it's annual wash tonight and STOOD on em to get in the engine bay - no flex or movement.

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The width covers the MTRs but *may* need a small rubber extention to cover Claws or Swampers - will wait to see. This was by design so there's some give when "interfacing" with obstacles. Blinker duties were sorted before I left to have it done with Supercheap Auto ADR-approved blinkers installed below each headlight at the front and below each Jeep logo for the cowl sides.

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The Hi-Steer is pretty much as close to perfect as you'd get for geomtery. The panhard, drag link and tierod are all parallel. I drove it home, 3 hours on the Hume, with no steering stabiliser and found no bump steer, wandering or other ill-effects. Gonads is sending an aftermarket stabiliser for me to put on just in case but as far as I'm concerned it's really not essential. They also made a HD front adjustable panhard rod which allowed the front track to be tuned to perfection.

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I really dig the nice little touches like stainless hardware and button allen-headed bolts too !

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Only fine tuning to come is a few turns of the drag link ends to centre the steering wheel (not that it's off by much). And an extra nut for one of the steering stops to ensure correct lock to lock travel. More of a precaution as on-road steering was fine. Might get some colour-match paint too to match the sides of the fenders to the body and leave the rest hammertone silver.

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Gonads is working out prices and duration for both kist now now and I'll post em up when they're available.

I will say one thing re price : 5, count em 5 tie rod ends each twice the size of a stock TJ ones = $158 From memory Jeep ones are about $90 ea - cooooool :)

Hope this stuff helps anyone considering upgrading their TJ/XJ steering and/or Fenders.

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SPIDER TUBE FENDERS

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YOU SAID THEY WEREN'T ADR COMPLIANT? COULD YOU EXPLAIN AT ALL
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SIN06 wrote:YOU SAID THEY WEREN'T ADR COMPLIANT? COULD YOU EXPLAIN AT ALL
bit confused... the only adr-compliant bit I mentioned was the blinkers I added to replace the ones in the stock location which ARE adr happy ??
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SO YOU CAN PUT TUBE FENDERS ON? BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POISON ONES YOU SPOKE OF?
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ahhhh so

The poison spyder ones follow the body line without providing any tyre coverage. They do a 3" flare version also but it needs about a 12" flare to be anyway near covering the tread.

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Post by trr35l »

you are worried about ard lights and flares whats going on with that bull bar it no where near follows the body line of the car it will push some under the car and i thought that is a no no screw lights and flares they will not kill
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trr35l wrote:you are worried about ard lights and flares whats going on with that bull bar it no where near follows the body line of the car it will push some under the car and i thought that is a no no screw lights and flares they will not kill
Can you repeat that in English?
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Post by Gordo »

Um.... yeah....

I think I understand what u said :?:

Fact is - comp rigs get driven to comps, to shops for mods/repairs and private property in the bush for testing/practice.

Not exactly a daily driver and frankly I can't be bothered justifing the assumed legality of road-going registered & insured competition vehicles here (of any flavour) and besides...it's been discussed to death previously anyway.
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Post by CJer »

Nice work Gordo

Great pics and report. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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Post by duncan »

The steering looks like a cross between a MQ set up with the tie rod and drag link on the front of the diff with a GQ panhard rod set up would put money that the big tie rod on the passenger side is defiinatly MQ very nicly done excellent work boys
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Post by Gordo »

close... ;)

Nads and Paul used billet chromo hex bar and 100 series ends. The panhard is modified GQ.

Gave it a good caning a few weeks back. Tore of a rear flare off (as usual) on some rocks in a creek and nudged the tierod - it lost a bit of paint and that was about it - very impressed :)
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