Half Doors

[basketcase]

I am thinking of fabbing up some half doors.

Just want to know if they are legal or not??

[bad_religion_au]

what rig?

i know running no doors on a 40 is legal

[redzook]

just got my half doors passed by an engineer

[ausyota]

I think they are fine as long as you have door handles inside and out.
I dont know if side intrusion strength comes into it though .

[basketcase]

Its on a hilux.

Might go speak to my engineer then

[Wooders]

Depnds on the year - I can run dorrless legally on my 97TJ

[Bartso]

you'll be right champ just start cutting im going half doors as well just have to find a couple of MQ doors

[bj42turbo]

i know running no doors on a 40 is legal

It is? how do you know this Adam

Cheers BJ

[adam.s]

...cause they came like that as a factory option I am pretty sure.

But I think for it to be 100% legal you have to get the factory model that came like that.

Otherwise it needs to be engineered still.

[pcman]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rd ... i%2020.pdf

question 11

my 4x4 has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

vicroads strongly reccomends against this practice especially when then vehicle is used onroad, however if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle can be used without doors fitted.

[bj42turbo]

thanks Case

[antt]

your car isn't legal anyway dan, so just do it

[MY45]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/vsi%2020.pdf

question 11

my 4x4 has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

vicroads strongly reccomends against this practice especially when then vehicle is used onroad, however if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle can be used without doors fitted.

All doors are "removable"

[pcman]

dont blame me blame vicroads its in there words exactly

[mkpatrol]

ADR29 does not cover NA category vehicles which are four wheel drive. ADR29 is side door strength so side intrusion bars would not be fitted anyway.

Just check with the local authorities as they may want door handles inside & out. As there wont be any glass you might be able to get away with exteral handles only.

[Hybrid]

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

[mkpatrol]

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

Thats what I said

[basketcase]

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

[bj42turbo]

your car isn't legal anyway dan, so just do it

Yeah just reading that vicroads PDF so many things on my 40 aren't legal either

Dazz

[spazbot]

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

early 90's i think my 89 lux doors didnt have the bars and my 94 model doors have them

[beebee]

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

early 90's i think my 89 lux doors didnt have the bars and my 94 model doors have them

My 91 model didn't have intrusion bars. Basically the interpretation of the law here is: as long as the door is openable from both inside and outside the vehicle (if you have some type of vinyl window) or from the inside without windows and you use std adr approved latches and hinges you should be fine. Obviously no sharp edges either. It is a question of interpretation as to whether you even need doors to begin with.

Lastly, why are you wasting our/your time here and not just giving Phil a call as I assume he'll be doing your mod plates anyway??

[spazbot]

so would one get away with tube doors like this

[-Richo-]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/vsi%2020.pdf

question 11

my 4x4 has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

vicroads strongly reccomends against this practice especially when then vehicle is used onroad, however if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle can be used without doors fitted.

All doors are "removable"

You should be a lawyer Adam

[basketcase]

My 91 model didn't have intrusion bars. Basically the interpretation of the law here is: as long as the door is openable from both inside and outside the vehicle (if you have some type of vinyl window) or from the inside without windows and you use std adr approved latches and hinges you should be fine. Obviously no sharp edges either. It is a question of interpretation as to whether you even need doors to begin with.

Lastly, why are you wasting our/your time here and not just giving Phil a call as I assume he'll be doing your mod plates anyway??

Because I always feel like I am wasting his time

I was going to call him to get final approval once I had researched on here.

[antt]

so would one get away with tube doors like this

doors? where?

[ozy1]

so would one get away with tube doors like this

doors? where?

dont know about doors, but i have an intrusion bar now

[mkpatrol]

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

Read my post, it tells you

[GUJohnno]

so would one get away with tube doors like this

doors? where?

dont know about doors, but i have an intrusion bar now

Intrusion or extrusion.... LOL

[GUJohnno]

Check out this thread. This guy was making half doors for Patrol. Don't know if he has done any other models.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=1010