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criuser or patrol
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criuser or patrol
Here goes !
Im looking to get a new ute 2002 on .
price is not the issue
But I do here alot of different stories about fuel economy, gearboxes,diffs etc , etc
I will need it for farm work which means it will be in 4wd most of the time but I would aslo be using it for traveling (intend to put a slip on camper on the back)
please keep this factual and not a show down between Toyota and Nissan
thanks
Im looking to get a new ute 2002 on .
price is not the issue
But I do here alot of different stories about fuel economy, gearboxes,diffs etc , etc
I will need it for farm work which means it will be in 4wd most of the time but I would aslo be using it for traveling (intend to put a slip on camper on the back)
please keep this factual and not a show down between Toyota and Nissan
thanks
He who hesitates is BOGGED
I'll kick off the arguments!
Nissan drivetrain has a better reputation for strength, and their LSD's actually work.
Toyotas seem to have a better resale value, but by the time you've paid for "Genuine Toyota Parts" you'll still be struggling to come out in front.
I believe the Toyota diesel engines are better than the Nissans, but I can't really back that up.
I believe you can get coils all round in a Patrol, but I don't know about the 'Cruiser - and I could be wrong too!
Either way, I think you'll be alright. Perhaps it'll come down to which has a better dealer near you?
Cheers,
Scott
Nissan drivetrain has a better reputation for strength, and their LSD's actually work.
Toyotas seem to have a better resale value, but by the time you've paid for "Genuine Toyota Parts" you'll still be struggling to come out in front.
I believe the Toyota diesel engines are better than the Nissans, but I can't really back that up.
I believe you can get coils all round in a Patrol, but I don't know about the 'Cruiser - and I could be wrong too!
Either way, I think you'll be alright. Perhaps it'll come down to which has a better dealer near you?
Cheers,
Scott
yotas have some problems with big end bearings on the 1hdt'sNJ SWB wrote:I'll kick off the arguments!
I believe the Toyota diesel engines are better than the Nissans, but I can't really back that up.
Cheers,
Scott
IMHO they're both the same vehicle in an offroad/onroad perspective/principle..
just comes down to personal taste really.. so go and take either for a test drive and pick one
TOM
i feel the patrol has a more roomy cabin. i drive a GU ute and i have a friend with a 75 series ute. i supose if your a large person the patrol may be a little more comphy. and i think the base model cruiser has vinyl seat as apposed to cloth in the patrol. i do have vinyl floor coverings though. mine is a DX ute. i am biased but i truely believe the patrol ute is better than the cruiser.
Just a note on the coils all round on the Patrol ute, they have a lower load rating than the leaf sprung Patrol so if your thinking of a slide on camper confirm your expected total GVM to make sure all O/K other wise the coils give better ride & articulation from the factory.NJ SWB wrote:I'll kick off the arguments!
I believe you can get coils all round in a Patrol, but I don't know about the 'Cruiser - and I could be wrong too!
Scott
Cheers.
of course, i'm a cruiser man, just to get that out of the way.
I read an article when the GU's first came out, they compared bog stock cruiser to patrol ute - right down to skinny wheels with the same tyre - and the outcome, in short and sweet version: Patrol much more comf on road (coils) nicer interior, Cruiser better in bush, low-range driving. The vehicles were used in typical farm day - a good few dirt road miles, pile of fence posts in the back, then out on the property to fix the fence.
I think they compared a turbo Patrol to a non turbo cruiser, so Patrol had more grunt, but they weren't going nuts over it.
If you really don't care about brands, go drive both, see which you like more, as they'll both do the same thing in the end. (i reckon anyway)
I remember considering a Patrol, but the thing that turned me off (this was in a GQ ute though) was that the tranny tunnel in the Patrol was much wider and higher than the cruiser - meaning the person in the middle had next to no leg room.
Go drive them both, let us know what you get.
I thought the bearing prob was only in the first (90-93ish) diesels?
I read an article when the GU's first came out, they compared bog stock cruiser to patrol ute - right down to skinny wheels with the same tyre - and the outcome, in short and sweet version: Patrol much more comf on road (coils) nicer interior, Cruiser better in bush, low-range driving. The vehicles were used in typical farm day - a good few dirt road miles, pile of fence posts in the back, then out on the property to fix the fence.
I think they compared a turbo Patrol to a non turbo cruiser, so Patrol had more grunt, but they weren't going nuts over it.
If you really don't care about brands, go drive both, see which you like more, as they'll both do the same thing in the end. (i reckon anyway)
I remember considering a Patrol, but the thing that turned me off (this was in a GQ ute though) was that the tranny tunnel in the Patrol was much wider and higher than the cruiser - meaning the person in the middle had next to no leg room.
Go drive them both, let us know what you get.
I thought the bearing prob was only in the first (90-93ish) diesels?
yea i heard this also, mate just bought a 100 series, and asked the dealer, apparently the oil capacity was increased. Shouldn't be a prob if you buy it new and service regularlyI thought the bearing prob was only in the first (90-93ish) diesels?
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots
coilos
i would get the new turbo diesel cruiser and convert the bum to coils.
main reason is that the new 79 or what ever it is now goes heaps better than the turbo diesel patrol and heaps better resale.
this is not from exprience but have two mates with the vechiles mentioned here, and imo the cruiser kicks the patrols ass in horsepower,just an allround better on road performer.
main reason is that the new 79 or what ever it is now goes heaps better than the turbo diesel patrol and heaps better resale.
this is not from exprience but have two mates with the vechiles mentioned here, and imo the cruiser kicks the patrols ass in horsepower,just an allround better on road performer.
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Toyota TD is direct injection... GU TD is still pushrod
Cruiser - full floating rear... this is an option only on leaf cab GU's i believe..
GU has rounder lines etc.. compared to the tough look of a 79
really comes down to toyota or nissan prob... both are excellent vehicles, if only toyota would put a stronger assembly under the front!
Cruiser - full floating rear... this is an option only on leaf cab GU's i believe..
GU has rounder lines etc.. compared to the tough look of a 79
really comes down to toyota or nissan prob... both are excellent vehicles, if only toyota would put a stronger assembly under the front!
Cheers,
Dan.
[i]1996 HDJ80R[/i]
Dan.
[i]1996 HDJ80R[/i]
Road Ranger
I went through the same problem when I got mine, I decided on the GU ST coil for several reasons
GU Coil, much more comfortable ride on the road and the bush
GU cab more roomy
GU seating possition for me was better due to being 6.6ft
GU with the turbo standard (79 to expensive)
GU looks a bit modern, not 1950s (if the 80s or 100s came in a ute prolly different story
Resale is in proportion to the initial buy price, cruiser utes are worth a lots for what they are ie lack of a lot of improvemnt
mates on property out near Hay had 3 years trouble free out of 6 of em
I love my GU, but you will need to drive am both and make your own decision, every one had differnt priorities and requirments out of there chosen vehicle, but don't just blindly run out and buy a cruiser coz it a touota, buy it coz it is the best vehicle for your needs
GU Coil, much more comfortable ride on the road and the bush
GU cab more roomy
GU seating possition for me was better due to being 6.6ft
GU with the turbo standard (79 to expensive)
GU looks a bit modern, not 1950s (if the 80s or 100s came in a ute prolly different story
Resale is in proportion to the initial buy price, cruiser utes are worth a lots for what they are ie lack of a lot of improvemnt
mates on property out near Hay had 3 years trouble free out of 6 of em
I love my GU, but you will need to drive am both and make your own decision, every one had differnt priorities and requirments out of there chosen vehicle, but don't just blindly run out and buy a cruiser coz it a touota, buy it coz it is the best vehicle for your needs
If the above post did not offend you in any way please PM me so I can try harder!!
Yeah the rear diffs are notorious on nissans ..+dj_hansen+ wrote:Cruiser - full floating rear... this is an option only on leaf cab GU's i believe..
" If governments are involved in the covering up the knowledge of aliens, Then they are doing a much better job of it than they do of everything else "
my GU is an ex mine truck, and so where the other 30 that the bloke had. he bought whole fleets and said that after they had been through the mine, the patrols came out better. if it can handle the mine it can handle anything, many will attest to the life that my truck has endured, and its still goinggrazza wrote:I know that in the mining industry they only use Toyotas, dont know why exactly, perhaps someone can provide the reasons...
As above, not all mines use Toyotas, some use Nissans. The reason being is fleet management mostly and what kind of deals they can get. I even know of one mine that even has a small fleet of Suzuki Vitaras mixed in with their Landcruisers.grazza wrote:I know that in the mining industry they only use Toyotas, dont know why exactly, perhaps someone can provide the reasons...
Go and ask an all makes specialised 4wd service centre what they repair
the most of.... i will bet that it will be the big T products.
And this won't be just because there are more of them out there!
the most of.... i will bet that it will be the big T products.
And this won't be just because there are more of them out there!
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