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Rebuilding Greg's Sierra
Rebuilding Greg's Sierra
Hi All,
Since there don't seem to be too many projects going on in the Suzuki Forum at the moment i thought i would keep you all up to date with what is going on with my little car.
Basically the scenerio is that two things have occured:
1. My little 1.3 engine is starting to die, its producing a lot of smoke and is chewing through oil.
2. My driving style and what i want to achieve when driving has changed. I'm no longer thinking about how to get up a track the easy way, now i want to have a crack at driving the hard way and acknowledge that there is a chance that i won't make it.
So, what these issues have required is a little rebuild of the car.
First up was the motor, it had to have Fuel injection because i am always flooding the carby with the car on big leans, so the obvious choice for the driving i like doing was the vitara 1.6 EFI engine, but as anyone that has tried to find one of these engines will tell you, they tend to be as rare as hens teeth and plenty costly.
Another suggestion that was generated out of the suzuki club was the little engine out of a Suzuki Cappuccino (a car that i had never heard of)... This is as much a novelty choice as anything else as it is only 660cc's and 3 cylindars with a groovy turbo sneeze idea . This has become the motor of choice and i have recently shipped a front cut from a Japanese Import Cap in the past few days.
The second issue was how to set up the car so that it could cope with my poor attempts at driving the un-drivable. The obvious choice for this was to reduce the number of panels on the car, and increase the strength of the passenger area. This lead to the soucing of a soft top body, and will lead to the installation of a 6 point roll cage.
So basically the whole process will include the following tasks:
1. engine swap (1.3 sierra to 660cc cap)
2. body swap (hard top to soft top)
3. gearing upgrade (5.12 diff gears)
4. roll cage and bull bar (new cage, get rid of arb bar to reduce weight)
So, that's the briefing on the project. I'll try to keep you all up-to-date on how it is travelling with the inclusion of a few pics etc.
I look foward to your comments / feedback.
Cheers,
Greg
Since there don't seem to be too many projects going on in the Suzuki Forum at the moment i thought i would keep you all up to date with what is going on with my little car.
Basically the scenerio is that two things have occured:
1. My little 1.3 engine is starting to die, its producing a lot of smoke and is chewing through oil.
2. My driving style and what i want to achieve when driving has changed. I'm no longer thinking about how to get up a track the easy way, now i want to have a crack at driving the hard way and acknowledge that there is a chance that i won't make it.
So, what these issues have required is a little rebuild of the car.
First up was the motor, it had to have Fuel injection because i am always flooding the carby with the car on big leans, so the obvious choice for the driving i like doing was the vitara 1.6 EFI engine, but as anyone that has tried to find one of these engines will tell you, they tend to be as rare as hens teeth and plenty costly.
Another suggestion that was generated out of the suzuki club was the little engine out of a Suzuki Cappuccino (a car that i had never heard of)... This is as much a novelty choice as anything else as it is only 660cc's and 3 cylindars with a groovy turbo sneeze idea . This has become the motor of choice and i have recently shipped a front cut from a Japanese Import Cap in the past few days.
The second issue was how to set up the car so that it could cope with my poor attempts at driving the un-drivable. The obvious choice for this was to reduce the number of panels on the car, and increase the strength of the passenger area. This lead to the soucing of a soft top body, and will lead to the installation of a 6 point roll cage.
So basically the whole process will include the following tasks:
1. engine swap (1.3 sierra to 660cc cap)
2. body swap (hard top to soft top)
3. gearing upgrade (5.12 diff gears)
4. roll cage and bull bar (new cage, get rid of arb bar to reduce weight)
So, that's the briefing on the project. I'll try to keep you all up-to-date on how it is travelling with the inclusion of a few pics etc.
I look foward to your comments / feedback.
Cheers,
Greg
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Problems so far:
1. importers did not include the jack shaft (yoke) from the back of the cap gear box. However, as it turns out, a 1L sierra yoke fits perfectly so it looks like all is good there.
2. finding someone that has an EFI Vitara Fuel tank - i have just sourced one from NSW.
3. finding someone with some 5.12 diff gears - ended up buying some through Overkill (Sam) in NSW.
lots more issues going along but we'll see how it all goes.
1. importers did not include the jack shaft (yoke) from the back of the cap gear box. However, as it turns out, a 1L sierra yoke fits perfectly so it looks like all is good there.
2. finding someone that has an EFI Vitara Fuel tank - i have just sourced one from NSW.
3. finding someone with some 5.12 diff gears - ended up buying some through Overkill (Sam) in NSW.
lots more issues going along but we'll see how it all goes.
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you would appear to be in perth so i don't know how worthwhile shipping a whole body would be, but yes, the hard top body and the ARB bar are going to be available.
note: the arb bar mounting plates have been modified but i'd imagine that i could get them re-set back to fitting a stock application.
note: the arb bar mounting plates have been modified but i'd imagine that i could get them re-set back to fitting a stock application.
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Well i checked out the coffee machine on Saturday. Looks very small but it actually just as tall as the sierra motor is - just shorter from front to back.
The front cut does not have a radiator or the original intercooler - i assume these were damaged in the write off accident - the car has taken a hit in the front drivers side corner.
Progress Update:
1. My fuel tank is being shipped today from sydney to melbourne
Modifications Required List Update:
1. We are going to get a custom intercooler made for it.
2. Requires a thermo fan as the cap motor does not drive a fan. However, the wiring loom from the cap should allow us to drive the thermo.
more info as it develops.
The front cut does not have a radiator or the original intercooler - i assume these were damaged in the write off accident - the car has taken a hit in the front drivers side corner.
Progress Update:
1. My fuel tank is being shipped today from sydney to melbourne
Modifications Required List Update:
1. We are going to get a custom intercooler made for it.
2. Requires a thermo fan as the cap motor does not drive a fan. However, the wiring loom from the cap should allow us to drive the thermo.
more info as it develops.
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the cap has a 5 speed manual which looks very similar in size to the sierra 1L box... i believe that the gears are a bit taller though - that's why i had to find the diff gears.
currently the gear box has an extension of about 40cm to where the shifter stick sits to change gears... this would mean that the gear shifter would end up where my elbow is when driving the car (i.e. in the handbrake area), so we are hoping to be able to remove this extension and fit a regular 1L sierra shifter stick to it
Note: In Japan i believe this motor (F6A or K6A) comes stock in their Sierra (Jimny) and comes with an Auto too... Which we suspect may be able to bolt straight into place instead of the manual which would be pretty nice too
currently the gear box has an extension of about 40cm to where the shifter stick sits to change gears... this would mean that the gear shifter would end up where my elbow is when driving the car (i.e. in the handbrake area), so we are hoping to be able to remove this extension and fit a regular 1L sierra shifter stick to it
Note: In Japan i believe this motor (F6A or K6A) comes stock in their Sierra (Jimny) and comes with an Auto too... Which we suspect may be able to bolt straight into place instead of the manual which would be pretty nice too
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Steve if ya really want to do this .. I would be hapy to supply a few beers for afterwards .. I would even provide car and trailer to get the body to whereever .. and dump it if we really screw up ..
I wanna chop my hardtop into a trayback ... But would like to get in abit of practice on a non working model before I take to mine with a grinder ... again ...
I wanna chop my hardtop into a trayback ... But would like to get in abit of practice on a non working model before I take to mine with a grinder ... again ...
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Yeppers should be at the meeting at least for a while.. work permitting .. (Curse people resigning and servers litterally catching on fire in far flung states like QLD).
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