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Post by swamp »

I broke an axle on the 11a a while back and just got around to fixing it on the long weekend.
The broken piece was being very uncooperative in coming out so I took the centre out to pursuade it with a BFH.
I was suprised to see the large size of the crown in comparison to a 3.54
its bloody huge but the pinion was relativly small.
I was always led to beleive the 4.7's were not that strong , though this looks quite good.
The vehicle is a 1965 11a truck cab 3/4 ton ex oz army.
Would this be a stock rover diff, ie cw+p or a fancy pancy military one
The axle that came out had "darrell lea" stamped on it, maybe this was a special supplier of axles ,
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

The military series 4.7 diffs aren't any different to the civillian ones, but they may have been made from slightly better quality materials.

The small pinion head and narrow teeth is what makes the 4.7 diff not as strong as it could/should be.

Darryl lea sounds about right - I always suspected my IIA axles were made from chocolate nstead of steel, now I know. :D
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Post by Slunnie »

They make the CW/P from chocolate to protect the CW bolts which are made from cheese.

I bet nobody knows if I'm serious or not. You check the diff fluid, its not oil, its preservative.
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Post by Slunnie »

Actually I fixed my IIa axles with Toyota Hilux units. :cool:
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Post by swamp »

Slunnie tell some more of these magical fixed axles ,
You mentioned the word hilux , is this the cheese manafacturer from upper meddlington Burpshire who used to supplly BL with parts or some foreign abomination.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

swamp - here is one guys solution to the axle strength problem...

http://seriestrek.com/toyotadiffs.html
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swamp wrote:Slunnie tell some more of these magical fixed axles ,
You mentioned the word hilux , is this the cheese manafacturer from upper meddlington Burpshire who used to supplly BL with parts or some foreign abomination.
Inn keeper , two pints of your finest ale please.
:rofl: They also make fine Parmesan.

I'll get the links all working and post it up shortly, but in a nutshell the front housing bolts up directly, requires a typical hilux X-over steer setup made from 2 axle steering stubs flipped and welded (see Toyo tech). The upper stub was reamed to take the series LR steering link which is the correct size to drop in. This gives a sprung over setup and requires the tailshaft to modded to flex that far and also the Xmember to be clearanced. Brake lines to suit also, they wont bolt up. Rear end needs spring perches to suit, tailshaft flange to fit and brake lines to connect.

I'll get some pics together later. The axle is narrower than the LR unit, but you end up about 4" wider overall due to Landcuiser offset rims.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

Slunnie wrote:The axle is narrower than the LR unit, but you end up about 4" wider overall due to Landcuiser offset rims.
A hilux axle is narrower than a series axle or narrower than a coiler axle???
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Post by Slunnie »

The hilux axle is narrower than a series Landy axle. I guess that really means its narrower than a coiler axle also.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

Slunnie wrote:The hilux axle is narrower than a series Landy axle. I guess that really means its narrower than a coiler axle also.
Wow - wouldn't have thought that. Series WMS is about 55" and coiler is 61"
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Post by Slunnie »

I just did a search, and it seems the Hilux WMS is 55". My apologies, but I could have sworn they were narrower when I did the conversion. :oops:
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Post by Loanrangie »

Come on be serious, we all know rover axles are made of licorice ! And by Darrell Lea as we now know !
Saddle up tonto, its the not so loanrangie! . 98 TDI DISCO lightly modded with more to come.
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