NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (GLOWPLUGS)

Post by **the plough** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:18 pm

for some reason the glowplugs will not turn on/glow. There is no light in the dash and i have tried leaving ignition on for awhile but that doesnt work either!! It was working then i turned engine off, tryed to start and i had nothing. Is there a fuse somewhere??? or is it worse??

Post by **gotoy** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:57 pm

I had a problem like that...just like you one moment OK , next not Ok. I checked all the fuses, electrics and solenoids, nothing wrong.

Finaly, bought 4 new glo plugs and everthing was OK.

Sounds like you may have 1 or more defective glo-plugs, so I say replace them all.

Post by **De-lux** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:59 pm

ok, you haven't said anything about the model of truck you have. I'll assume you have a Hilux same as mine. If so, the glow plug timing actuator might be playing up. In the LN106 the box is in the front passenger's kickwall at their feet, behind a little bit of plastic. When my truck went volintarily swimmin my went a bit screwy for a while, but when the water dried up, it was all good.

But then again, your problem might be totally different.

One thing you can try, is pull out the glowies, and get two pieces of good wire, and affix them to either side of the battery and then to the glow plugs. They should immediatly start glowing and getting bloody hot. If they don't, they are screwed. (or your battery is dead

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hope that heaps. maybe an expert will chime in soon

Post by **the plough** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:17 pm

Thanks for the help... and yes i do hope an expert will come on line soon and help mee!!

Post by **the plough** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:30 pm

Sorry, It is an 84' lux.. (2l) We have no power to the CD player or UHF as well

Post by **joel HJ60** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:38 pm

the plough wrote:Sorry, It is an 84' lux.. (2l) We have no power to the CD player or UHF as well

Is there power anywhere, you may have a flat battery mate?

Post by **the plough** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:01 pm

"Is there power anywhere, you may have a flat battery mate?"

Unfortunitly no i dont have a flat battery.

So far i can figure...CD player and UHF are the only things that don't have power, from tthe same wire that goes into the ignition switch everything else in the ignition switch working ok. NO glow plug light and no power to glow plugs.

Has my ignition switch a goner????

Post by **Chucky** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:57 pm

sounds like you may have done a fusible link in the wiring. I am not too familar witht eh Hi-lux's just check your workshop book and it will tell you where they are.

I am assuming that you have checked all the fuses and relays in the system first.

Post by **gotoy** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:28 pm

I told you once!! Replace the Glo-Plugs.

Post by **De-lux** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:47 pm

does your truck actually start?

you can start it without glowing the plugs (although its not recommended)

Post by **dumbdunce** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:50 pm

De-lux wrote:does your truck actually start?

you can start it without glowing the plugs (although its not recommended)

it's more or less impossible to start a cold, indirect injected diesel without glow. try pulling your glow fusible link and then try to crank the motor when it's cold. it won't start.

back to the problem at hand, I'd get a multimeter or test lamp and check to see if there is voltage at the plug bus bar with the ignition switched on. if not, work from the battery - check the fusible link, controller (if there is one), glow relay and wiring. if there is voltage there, then it is probably the plugs.

Post by **De-lux** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:55 pm

i' ve done it

was out camping (only my truck there) no one to jump me.

battery was nearlly flat, and if i glow'd the plugs, it wouldn't have enought juice to start. so just did it off the cuff. i felt bad doing it, but i had no choice.

Post by **bad_religion_au** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:53 pm

you can start an indirect injection diesel without glowplugs...

even if you boil a couple of big pots of water, tip em slowly over the head... it helps... i've started my old troopy in the snow like that

Post by **dumbdunce** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:06 pm

De-lux wrote:i' ve done it

was out camping (only my truck there) no one to jump me.

battery was nearlly flat, and if i glow'd the plugs, it wouldn't have enought juice to start. so just did it off the cuff. i felt bad doing it, but i had no choice.

if the battery is too flat to glow, it's way way too flat to crank. If you just turn the key straight to 'start', but do not disconnect the glow fusible link, the plugs will still glow. It does not take much glow, but it needs some.

Post by **45punkbus** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:06 pm

bad_religion_au wrote: i've started my old troopy in the snow like that

thats my car, i was there for that...

Post by **dumbdunce** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:07 pm

bad_religion_au wrote:you can start an indirect injection diesel without glowplugs...

even if you boil a couple of big pots of water, tip em slowly over the head... it helps... i've started my old troopy in the snow like that

so you're replacing the function of the glows with hot water - the effect is the same, putting some heat into the head before you try and crank.

Post by **gotoy** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:35 pm

I have read all the posts and they are more or less exactly what I did.

So, I replaced all the glo plugs and the engine started 1st time.

Reccommend you change the Glo-Plugs.

Post by **the plough** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:54 pm

gotoy,
I know you think i should replace them, but did you check ne wiring with urs or did you just replace the glow plugs???....its just i havnt got that much money so i want to be fairly sure

Post by **De-lux** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:57 pm

glowies aren't that expensive from memory... maybe $15 each?

Post by **the plough** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:00 pm

Oh well i will find out by the end of the weekend!! I will either be happy or not so happy

Post by **gotoy** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:23 pm

the plough wrote:gotoy,
I know you think i should replace them, but did you check ne wiring with urs or did you just replace the glow plugs???....its just i havnt got that much money so i want to be fairly sure

Yes, I checked for 2 nights. I could not find anything wrong with the electrics...and I am Electric by trades. I started the engine using the petrol trick, drove round to the local workshop. They had it running within 1hr...just replaced the glo plugs after I told them I'd checked the electrics.

I am not saying this is your problem, but after reading what you have done and checked, sounds to it is. Make sure you actually check all the fuses, solenoids etc...I note you have a problem on UHF. Can you hear the soloniod click in for the pre-heat...if not maybe thats the cause.

Better check out you UHF as well.

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Post by **the plough** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:28 pm

thanks gotoy. I am replacing the plugs hopefully this weekend as a few others have told me the same thing, GLow Plugs are dead
cheers

Post by **gotoy** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:31 pm

I know it difficult posting here because we are not actually on site.

Please post the results!!

Cheers!

Post by **the plough** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:10 pm

Firstly, thanks for all the help

The Solution: Went to libary and got manual on the hilux's glowplugs and their wiring system, got a voltage measure thingy, and started testing everything starting at the glow plugs and working way back, till i eventually found a Fusable rely that looked ok but wasnt!. Put new one in and the old girl lives again

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