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Post by ozy1 »

STUMPY wrote:
ozy1 wrote:
GUJohnno wrote:
bogged wrote:if I remember correctly, Kyle went 4inch on the VH45 Ptrool.. looked sweet, but I think it would be easy to damage....
....why?

The problem with a 4" one might be visability
hmmm....thats a point, well i chose to go with 3", its only going on a TB42, it should flow more than enough, if need be in a million years when i can afford a V8 conversion, ill put twin staino snorkels on,
WXC of the board was running a 3" and he said the TB42 had troubles breathing. now he's running a 4" on and he reckons it much better.

just 2c
well the Safari is only really 3", so what your basically saying, if i replace the safari thats on my wagon, with a 4" staino, it will preform better, and i should put a 4" on my comp shorty too then.
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Post by plowy »

the only prob i see with the jeep n zook snorkels is the induction noise would be hell espesially on a long trip otherwise theylook sweet

and as for that gu ute i know as a yota man i should not say it but fawk it looks hot
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Post by GUJohnno »

Tidy42 wrote:the only prob i see with the jeep n zook snorkels is the induction noise would be hell espesially on a long trip otherwise theylook sweet

and as for that gu ute i know as a yota man i should not say it but fawk it looks hot
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Post by benhl »

benhl wrote:with the pod style cleaner on the top there does it matter if it gets wet - like in pouring rain or is it a dry only set up?
Again - does anyone know about this???? :roll:

Can a Unifilter Droopie be used as the only filtering device?? :roll:
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

benhl wrote:with the pod style cleaner on the top there does it matter if it gets wet - like in pouring rain or is it a dry only set up?
Again - does anyone know about this???? :roll:
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If it is a foam pod filter it will be fine if it gets wet - the only problem is that if it gets really wet small droplets of water will be transported through the filter, taking dust with them.
benhl wrote: Can a Unifilter Droopie be used as the only filtering device?? :roll:
Not if you care about your engine. Read this thread.

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Post by optical »

so how are they fitted to the A-pillar ?

ive been interested in a stainless one as paying 600~ is a bit rediculas (ok cheaper then rebuild..)
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Post by whiteknight »

Yeah I too would like to know how you fit the stainless ones to the A-Pillar..
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Post by RockyF75 »

whiteknight wrote:Yeah I too would like to know how you fit the stainless ones to the A-Pillar..
make that 3 :D . Planning on doing this within next 6 months so soaking up ALL the valuable info :armsup:

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Post by ISUZUROVER »

whiteknight wrote:Yeah I too would like to know how you fit the stainless ones to the A-Pillar..
Look at the jeep pictures, you can clearly see a plate wit 2 screws in the middle of the A-pillar.
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Post by J Top »

I was thinking that on a tough truck where the body is not so important, you could cut a 3" or 4" strip out of your guard to move the pipe in closer to the vehicle, and then weld the pipe to the guard.
To mount the snorkle to the A pillar use Rivnuts, a nut which compresses into a hole and locks there. Most body shops should be able to do this for you for a couple of beers. IMHO screws and rivets are temporary fixtures.
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Post by Kane »

There's a couple of things you can do to fix the snorkel to the piller-

1- if you look at the safari type snork you will see that it has plastic plug things in to the piller and the screws go into them.
Now this is what I had to work with so I just used 2 hose clamps and a bit of steel (on top of the hose clamps to hold them onto the piller) which was about 20mm x 70mm and drilled 3 holes in it so it lined up with the original ones on my piller. This has seemed to work fine for me and it has been on for about 6-8 months with no drama's. This is the same way It is done on the black GQ SWB tray only it has 1 hose clamp which is still fine.

2-The other is to weld a plate/ bit of angle on the snorkel pipe and then screw it to the piller the same way the safari ones do.

Hope this helps as it is not a hard job and is well worth it as it looks blingin' and it does get good air flow. I do recomend using 4 inch pipe for a patrol or any 6cyl motor. It does not get in your way if it is mounted properly and you won't even notice that it's there.
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Post by hottiemonster »

Kane wrote:I do recomend using 4 inch pipe for a patrol or any 6cyl motor. It does not get in your way if it is mounted properly and you won't even notice that it's there.
I am in the process of making a 3" one, i didnt think that having just a standard motor would affect it much. :roll:

it will be done by the weekend as i need it for the navrun, will post some pics when completed.
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Post by RyanIAm »

Antz wrote:This one looks sweet
It does look sweet! Saw your rig on Sunnyholt Road this afternoon, looked a treat. You probably saw me staring at it as i was driving past ;)
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Post by GUJohnno »

hottiemonster wrote:
Kane wrote:I do recomend using 4 inch pipe for a patrol or any 6cyl motor. It does not get in your way if it is mounted properly and you won't even notice that it's there.
I am in the process of making a 3" one, i didnt think that having just a standard motor would affect it much. :roll:

it will be done by the weekend as i need it for the navrun, will post some pics when completed.
Let us know how it goes Hottie
I'm going to be doing mine in the next few weeks as I've got buyer for my original :D

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If i was to turbo my 2.8l diesel Luxy, would i need a 4" or would 3" do the job regardless of turbo or natural asperation?
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Post by munch »

I have thought about making one but would like to know peoples thoughts on the following.

What if any advantage would a 3" snorkel give you. The Safari and others would be close to this so would there be any great advantage. The reamining of the factory plumbing would probably still be smaller than 3" so unless you change the whole system would it be any better.

If it is for a turbo how I wouldnt think would be any great improvement for the turbo is always pumping the same amount of air in (whatever psi it would be set at).

Other than changing because it looks better is there any great advantage.
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Post by bundyrum4x4 »

munch wrote:I have thought about making one but would like to know peoples thoughts on the following.

What if any advantage would a 3" snorkel give you. The Safari and others would be close to this so would there be any great advantage. The reamining of the factory plumbing would probably still be smaller than 3" so unless you change the whole system would it be any better.

If it is for a turbo how I wouldnt think would be any great improvement for the turbo is always pumping the same amount of air in (whatever psi it would be set at).

Other than changing because it looks better is there any great advantage.

Depending on your engine and set up, air flow can become a problem.
For most std engines a std aftermarket snorkle is fine. Once you start playing with turbos etc you need to look at your air intake.

On my truck I took off a safari snorkle, replaced it with 4" and also replaced the air cleaner with a large truck style air box (donaldson). This has increased the performance.

I am doing a 3" snorkle with Hottie atm. While the performance wont be any better than his previous snorkle, it wont break as easy and is cheaper than replacing his previous safari snorkle. If you do damage it, you can replace sections not requireing full replacement.


And besides, it looks :cool:




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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

bundyrum4x4 wrote: Depending on your engine and set up, air flow can become a problem.
For most std engines a std aftermarket snorkle is fine. Once you start playing with turbos etc you need to look at your air intake.

On my truck I took off a safari snorkle, replaced it with 4" and also replaced the air cleaner with a large truck style air box (donaldson). This has increased the performance.

I am doing a 3" snorkle with Hottie atm. While the performance wont be any better than his previous snorkle, it wont break as easy and is cheaper than replacing his previous safari snorkle. If you do damage it, you can replace sections not requireing full replacement.


And besides, it looks :cool:




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Hey Greg, do you have any pics of how you fitted the Donaldson filter box in your Mav?
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Post by CHOPS1 »

Does anyone know where to get those rubber elbows from?

I'm making a 3" snork for my sierra.

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Post by coxy321 »

Try a truck or heavy industry type shop. My local truck shop has all different steel sections, elbows, straight sections, clamps etc. etc. They'd probly be the cheapest sort of place to get them.

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Post by bundyrum4x4 »

MKPatrolGuy wrote:
Hey Greg, do you have any pics of how you fitted the Donaldson filter box in your Mav?
Dave, havn't got any pics atm, still finishing the project. Need to get a new overflow bottle and locate behind the headlight. Due to the old snorkle hole, I have had to run (read messy) some flex duct to the aircleaner. Would have been better if I the snorkle lead directly into the air box.

Will post up when finnished.
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

bundyrum4x4 wrote:
MKPatrolGuy wrote:
Hey Greg, do you have any pics of how you fitted the Donaldson filter box in your Mav?
Dave, havn't got any pics atm, still finishing the project. Need to get a new overflow bottle and locate behind the headlight. Due to the old snorkle hole, I have had to run (read messy) some flex duct to the aircleaner. Would have been better if I the snorkle lead directly into the air box.

Will post up when finnished.
Cool, Looking forward to the pics.
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Post by hottiemonster »

CHOPS1 wrote:Does anyone know where to get those rubber elbows from?

I'm making a 3" snork for my sierra.

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Post by hottiemonster »

here is mine. what do you guys think?
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

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Post by gqswb »

Yeah I like it hottiemoster, so those hose clamps are screwed to the body? its to easy.... show us under the bonnet.
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Post by hottiemonster »

There are no hoseclaps screwed to the body :cool: :cool: :cool:

there isnt really anything much to see under the bonnet but can get pics if wanted.
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Post by gqswb »

hottiemonster wrote:There are no hoseclaps screwed to the body :cool: :cool: :cool:
Are the rubber joints bolted to the body? wont those hose clamps scratch the paint off your truck?
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Post by bundyrum4x4 »

The tube is bolted to the front guard in 2 places and also the A pillar with a bracket so it wont move.
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Post by Thor »

J Top wrote:I was thinking that on a tough truck where the body is not so important, you could cut a 3" or 4" strip out of your guard to move the pipe in closer to the vehicle, and then weld the pipe to the guard.
To mount the snorkle to the A pillar use Rivnuts, a nut which compresses into a hole and locks there. Most body shops should be able to do this for you for a couple of beers. IMHO screws and rivets are temporary fixtures.
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