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I would like some info with the fors and the against of using a rangie as a comp rig.
I was going to build a MQ patrol as a comp rig but since sitting down and working out my plan the rangie has a v8 already and coils, so this might be a good start. I have a Patrol/Ford mav lwb it has some good gear on it but i have given the lwb to my wife and sold her car for the project.
What are your thoughts and opinions
It depends on what style of comps you intend to do.
I chose a Rangie because it was cheaper than a patrol and I got a more capable vehicle for my $, better power to weight ratio and the perfect wheelbase.
Rangies do have there faults, just like all other brands. To have a V8 vehicle with coils suspension and 4 wheel disks as a bais to start a project on you cannot beat the price of a Rangie.
first thing ppl will say is they got weak axles, its gunna need lockers. u have a car with 37s+ n lockers doesnt matter if you drive a patrol or a mighty boy ne stock axles are gunna hang on u broken wall of fame one day, u need upgrades, a rangie with a maxi drive steup will be stronger than any other trucks with stocko axles and air locker ne day of the wk.
so dont let the weak axle topic get to ya, ane rigs gunna have to have running gear upgrades if u wanna a reliable comp truck.
get the pommy wiring replaced, or carry 2 fire ext suitable for electrical fires or opt for a sparky as a navigator.
any bigger than 35s and id recoomend a complete diff swap or the toy centre conversion.
But nissan diffs with the haultech cvs will handle more punishment.
The rover CW&Ps really arnt strong enough for large tyres exspecially when locked.
edit: and if you get a rangie another main thing youll def wanna do is cut the arse end off cause its got one hell of an arse
Ossie wrote:It depends on what style of comps you intend to do.
I chose a Rangie because it was cheaper than a patrol and I got a more capable vehicle for my $, better power to weight ratio and the perfect wheelbase.
Rangies do have there faults, just like all other brands. To have a V8 vehicle with coils suspension and 4 wheel disks as a bais to start a project on you cannot beat the price of a Rangie.
Jason
the style of comps i was looking at are like the outback and winch challenge,but in saying that, that is in the long term,for the moment as im new to this style of sport (as i have been drag racing for many years) i was looking at starting at the bottom to trophy class at the present and come in top placings there then move up.
You have to crawl before you walk, im just being realistic.
AnthonyP wrote:wat size tyres are you intending on running?
any bigger than 35s and id recoomend a complete diff swap or the toy centre conversion. But nissan diffs with the haultech cvs will handle more punishment.
The rover CW&Ps really arnt strong enough for large tyres exspecially when locked. edit: and if you get a rangie another main thing youll def wanna do is cut the arse end off cause its got one hell of an arse
For the moment i was looking at 33inch so i can enter trophy class.
rangies have been very succsessfull in the past but as the events get tougher and tougher they are starting to find the limits. Yes people are braking aftermarket rover stuff BUT people are also NOT breaking stuff so it comes back to your driving. On this point i'm starting to wonder if the top teams are replacing driveline stuff after an event, after all it is a motor sport and most of these only use certain parts for one event. it all comes back to $$$$$$$.
imo the 110 defender is becoming cheaper by the day and the one that the haultech boys did was an awesome example of a well exicuted simple design, would be good to see something like this getting about
cheers, serg
i agree with uniformed, defenders are becoming much cheaper now which is why i have just bought one,they are built to go offroad n are over the moon with it offroad, things like factory extended diff, g box breathers, heavy cast diff casing on the rear, removable seats, hose out interior, big diesel filters with drains. big chassis rails underneath, steering damper above axle all help to make a solid truck, worth thinking about.
The only drama I could forsee with the 110 would be the arse end. I contemplated turning mine into a ute after a bingle with a solid rock wall.
The turning circle is nothing to write home about which could make some tracks interesting and the wheel base is a tad long...though the Patrols are longer.
A 90 set up well - no f*cking sway bars - would kick arse. Awesome angles all round and a good wheel base for crawling.
i think that a 90 is to short once you start to lift and run bigger tyres, the rangies seem to be comfortable at around 36" and after that the 110 wheel base comes into its own. don't worry about the arse as if its going to be made into a comp rig, nothhing a little oxy won't fix.
Hey Ruff how did you find the orange 110???
cheers serg
some times i guess the wheel base thing is a for n against, some obstacles are easier to straddle in a long wheel base, others with sharp ridges faver a shorty. going bigger tyre size helps close the gap ne way for step ups offroad ect, even though it doesnt actually change the wheel base, it puts the distance between rubber closer, and it will make your ramp angle betteraaa
ne stock axles are gunna hang on u broken wall of fame one day, u need upgrades, a rangie with a maxi drive steup will be stronger than any other trucks with stocko axles and air locker ne day of the wk.
