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auto boxes
auto boxes
just wonderin if any one out there runs an auto and if so what sort and how do ya find it
Japanese market sierras fall into a couple of categories.
Kei class: 550/660cc, ALL narrow track. These have very short diff gears and were available with a three speed auto and F6A single OHC motor in the coil sierra body shape and as a 4 speed auto
(appears to be the same auto as the 1.3 Jimny based on ratios) in the current Jimny body shape, with the K6A all alloy DOHC three cylinder.
The F6A/K6A Does not have the same bolt pattern as a 1,0 litre.
There are 1.0/1.3 litre sierras in Japan, they are ddearer to buy and run, and have poorer resale than 660 cars. tese are referred to as Jimny Wide after 1988 when the WT came out. These have broadly the same specs as austrlian cars, meaning no autos.
I suggest if you REALLY want an auto in a 1.0litre, try and convince a wrecker to import an F6A/Three speed auto combination. This would be very sweet.
Having built and extensively driven a F6A 660 converted sierra (manual) with a S3 rockhopper, 5.12's and 34" tyres, I would say that the F6A motor is way, way ahead of a 1.0 in all situations, and only lags a 1.3 in off idle torque, which is no problem if you have gears. Properly geared, the f6a is way more fun than a 1.3.
I would say that with the auto, the bottom end "hole" would dissapear due to stall speed.
Kei class: 550/660cc, ALL narrow track. These have very short diff gears and were available with a three speed auto and F6A single OHC motor in the coil sierra body shape and as a 4 speed auto
(appears to be the same auto as the 1.3 Jimny based on ratios) in the current Jimny body shape, with the K6A all alloy DOHC three cylinder.
The F6A/K6A Does not have the same bolt pattern as a 1,0 litre.
There are 1.0/1.3 litre sierras in Japan, they are ddearer to buy and run, and have poorer resale than 660 cars. tese are referred to as Jimny Wide after 1988 when the WT came out. These have broadly the same specs as austrlian cars, meaning no autos.
I suggest if you REALLY want an auto in a 1.0litre, try and convince a wrecker to import an F6A/Three speed auto combination. This would be very sweet.
Having built and extensively driven a F6A 660 converted sierra (manual) with a S3 rockhopper, 5.12's and 34" tyres, I would say that the F6A motor is way, way ahead of a 1.0 in all situations, and only lags a 1.3 in off idle torque, which is no problem if you have gears. Properly geared, the f6a is way more fun than a 1.3.
I would say that with the auto, the bottom end "hole" would dissapear due to stall speed.
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i am also interested in tryin to fit an auto to my 1.3 sierra as i need a new box and im sick of smelling burning clutch.
so does the 1.3 jimny box fit in or have i read ur convo wrong.
would love to know where i can find some info on what fits and how to do it.
cheers
so does the 1.3 jimny box fit in or have i read ur convo wrong.
would love to know where i can find some info on what fits and how to do it.
cheers
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Didn't the G13BB (early Aus imny 98-00) have a auto model
sould match a G13ba block
pity about the F10a and F6 not having same bolt pattern... be fun to use a 95-98 Jap jimny auto box
sould match a G13ba block
pity about the F10a and F6 not having same bolt pattern... be fun to use a 95-98 Jap jimny auto box
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In short yes.
In long (my specialty!) not really.
Yes, the G 13B auto will bolt to a G13A engine, or a swift GTI engine. Will it work?... I don't think so.
The G13B auto has an eletronic lock up torque converter, and an eletronic engagement of overdrive. The auto jimny has a different engine computer, a separate auto trans computer, and an electronic speed sensor. It needs signals from road speed, vacuum, throttle position and probable other stuff to make it shift properly.
If you want an auto behind a 1.3 carby or GTI, there is a three speed all hydrauilic auto, japanese market only. I thunk Mud4B has had some of these. I do not know the gearing or how the work out overall.
The other way is to do a "reverse" engine conversion and fit a vitara trimatic behind the 1.3, with a custom tailshaft housing (easy to make)
This will fit without moving the transfer and with about 1.5" out of the jackshaft. The boxes are strong and cheap, but you will loose the overdrive, so you might find your gearing spread a bit wide- not enough talk to launch hard, too many revs on the highway.
I am a massive fan of auto's offroad, but sierras are not the easiest/cheapest car to put an auto in.
Steve.
In long (my specialty!) not really.
Yes, the G 13B auto will bolt to a G13A engine, or a swift GTI engine. Will it work?... I don't think so.
The G13B auto has an eletronic lock up torque converter, and an eletronic engagement of overdrive. The auto jimny has a different engine computer, a separate auto trans computer, and an electronic speed sensor. It needs signals from road speed, vacuum, throttle position and probable other stuff to make it shift properly.
If you want an auto behind a 1.3 carby or GTI, there is a three speed all hydrauilic auto, japanese market only. I thunk Mud4B has had some of these. I do not know the gearing or how the work out overall.
The other way is to do a "reverse" engine conversion and fit a vitara trimatic behind the 1.3, with a custom tailshaft housing (easy to make)
This will fit without moving the transfer and with about 1.5" out of the jackshaft. The boxes are strong and cheap, but you will loose the overdrive, so you might find your gearing spread a bit wide- not enough talk to launch hard, too many revs on the highway.
I am a massive fan of auto's offroad, but sierras are not the easiest/cheapest car to put an auto in.
Steve.
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i ended up going 4k corolla auto its got plenty enough mumbo in low range[s3 rock hoppers] but does rev hard on road 80 klm/h and its reving pretty hard ,just as well its not a daily driver and i live close to bush.the motor and box cost me 550 from the local wreckers and wasnt hard to set up at all really.
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