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Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:38 pm

Here's a few shots of one of our customers Hilux's
It's not finished yet but something different.

Post by **bubs** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:44 pm

nissan axles :?:

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:45 pm

last one

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:48 pm

Yes nissan diffs.
5-link front
4-link rear
coilovers all round.

It has taken 11 months to build mainly due to our workload we have made 3 different coilover designs and a few link setups till we were failry happy we still need to change the rear lower links and play with the panhard rod angle.

Post by **POS** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:59 pm

Thats sweet, i like it!!!

Does he street the CLAWS :shock:

How much did the coilovers cost :?:

Post by **spazbot** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:00 pm

so how much to do my rear (of the lux) sam

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:02 pm

POS yews they are his street tyres.
The coilovers are our design based on a Rancho.

Spazbot PM me and I let you know.

Post by **bubs** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:49 pm

hmm i thought so

pretty sik lookin rig though :cool:

Post by **taziiy** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:35 pm

looks excellant
:lol:

Post by **MADSHORT** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:55 pm

Just a quick question Sam when will Scotty get his car

Gordon

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:22 am

MADSHORT wrote:Just a quick question Sam when will Scotty get his car

Gordon

Its getting the exhaust and the body work done then we have about a day left then he wil get. We still ahvn't taken it for a good drive yet and I want to make sure it drives properly before we get it back.

Website · Post by **killalux** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:56 pm

sam,
do you have any close up pics of the front suspension you could email me?

what sort of dollars would i be lookin at to do the 5 link on the front of my hilux, using a hilux diff?
did you have to modify the body mount under the drivers floor to clear the front trailing arms?

kildey@yahoo.com
cheers.

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:23 pm

Hey Sam how did you make the front diff turn the right way???

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:23 pm

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:24 pm

I had a special tailshaft made that reversed the rotation before it reached the centre so we could still use the HILUX transfer and not a GQ one. :roll:

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:34 pm

Post by **NICK** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:13 am

overkill wrote:I had a special tailshaft made that reversed the rotation before it reached the centre so we could still use the HILUX transfer and not a GQ one.

so it has one of those special splines where it reverses the rotation? or did you fit the gear box backward or does the truck have 5 reverse gears?

NICK

Post by **Wendle** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:07 pm

NICK wrote:
overkill wrote:I had a special tailshaft made that reversed the rotation before it reached the centre so we could still use the HILUX transfer and not a GQ one.

so it has one of those special splines where it reverses the rotation? or did you fit the gear box backward or does the truck have 5 reverse gears?

NICK

planetary gears in the slip joint :crazyeyes:

Post by **Zookymatt** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:59 pm

Along with the special tailshaft, you did install the muffler bearings right???

Seriously though, Sam do you face any liability issues in regards to installing illegal suspension components on a customer's vehicle? I'm talking about the heim joints. From what I have heard, they were illegal regardless of whether an engineer certifies the suspension setup overall.

Hypothetically, it's just if that guy had a huge accident and if the heims broke during the accident, his insurance company could easily refuse his claim. The guy could then play dumb and blame your company for installing the heims.

Now I know that heaps of us have things that are "questionable"

from a legal standpoint, but apparently the use of heims unfortunately doesn't sit in that gray area.

Or, is it simply a customer requested modification that you have informed him is illegal and is not intended for road use?

Regards,
Matt.

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:11 pm

Zookymat
The modification is for offroad use only. But the heim joints are only illegal if used in the wrong way. You can't run a heim if you run it with a steel on steel mounting system ie a steel bolt the same size as the heim ball bore. If you run rubber bushes inside the heim and then a bolt inside the rubber bushes then that is legal. So that then makes it a LEGAL modification.
SAM

Post by **napsta** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:18 pm

anyone care to explain what a heim joint is for the ignorant?

Post by **bj on roids** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 7:57 am

napsta wrote:anyone care to explain what a heim joint is for the ignorant?

History of the Heim Joint

World War II produced a host of inventions, some of which are still in use today. It’s common knowledge that the Germans used nitrous oxide to make the Messershimtt fighter planes climb higher and faster than the Allies’ planes. When the allies shot down the first German plane they noted a unique device also pioneered by Messerschmitt, the rod end.

One U.S. company received the nod to duplicate this new control link. The H.G. Heim company was granted all U.S. patents, and to this day the part retains the nickname "Heim Joint". After the Korean War the surplus aircraft parts market boomed. Hundreds of varieties of rod ends became available at a tenth of their original cost. Many of these parts, while designed for aircraft, were not up to the task of suspension links for race cars. High quality and economical rod ends didn’t appear until the late 70’s. They were produced by a Japanese company, N.M.B., which was caught by the U.S. government "dumping" (selling below cost) rod ends in the U.S. market. N.M.B. had to form a U.S. presence or leave the marketplace, so they bought a U.S. company, N.H.B.B. (New Hampshire Ball Bearing) and continue to make aircraft-quality rod ends today.

As the Heim patents ran out, a U.S. company began to manufacture economical rod ends for the power transmission industry. Superior Industries mass produced economical rod ends and over the course of a few years people from Superior formed Aurora, National, and several other rod end companies. Today over fifteen American companies make rod ends in the U.S. These products run the gamut from the stamped steel bodies used in control links for garden tractors to the 17-4 PH stainless units found on nuclear submarines.

http://www.monstertower.com/HeimJoint.htm

the above link shows pics of a male rod end, female ones are available too.

ANYTHING YOU EVER WANNA KNOW:

http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm? ... t&ch=autos

Post by **napsta** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 1:32 pm

ok. thanx

Post by **Zookymatt** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:34 am

Sam,

I wasn't aware of the steel on steel ruling. I thought that there was just a blanket rule over the use of heims. Do you have anything in print from the RTA about that?? Something I could keep in my 4wd along with my eng. certificates or send to my insurer?

That's good news though, I was going to screw around and machine up a johnny joint copy but if I can use heims, I'll just use a standard rubber bush on one end of my links and a heim on the other, too easy.....

Regards,
Matt.

Post by **1HI80** » Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:33 am

Sam do you know if scott is a member in the forum and also do you know if he is going to nissan trials

Post by **thunder** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:34 pm

1HI80 wrote:Sam do you know if scott is a member in the forum and also do you know if he is going to nissan trials

we r in the same club...he is going to the trials but not sure his hilux is!!

Post by **blakey** » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:36 pm

thunder wrote:
1HI80 wrote:Sam do you know if scott is a member in the forum and also do you know if he is going to nissan trials

we r in the same club...he is going to the trials but not sure his hilux is!!

I am a member of the forum, i will be there for sure maybe with my hilux if its on the road sam told me it should be by then

Post by **mattklippert** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:01 am

has anyone have any pic of this rig

Post by **RV80** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:22 am

mattklippert wrote:has anyone have any pic of this rig

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