GQ Shorty wheelbase extension??

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:35 pm

Ok what i want to know is if a GQ short wheelbase can have its wheelbase lenghtened , ive owned a shorty before and been driving in a few LWB patrols but what i want is a GQ shorty MWB

can it be done and how so, and how much can we lenghty it by?

also what sort of cost would i be looking at to have this done somewhere?

cheers

Post by **shorty92** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:48 pm

May i ask why?

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:50 pm

Because i want the stabilty of a longer wheelbase but i dont want a 4 door LWB

Post by **hotrod4x4** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:17 pm

shane

good to see your still alive n kicking

anyway
check out Bartso's truck in the memebers

will give u an idea
it seems fairly involved mainly in the rear

wagons r heaps cheaper , just buy one n cut the back off......maybe even weld the rear doors if u prefer only 2?

Post by **GQTrav** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:29 pm

This is becoming more common for the winch challenge trucks. Trent Leen had it done by cheezy, and Rohan's is also extended with the help of Cass Jones. I think Rohan's is somewhere between 100 and 105, TUFFRANGIE would have a better idea of this. There are also a few other winch challenge trucks that have done this. Makes then much better on steep hills.

Post by **JemmyBubbles** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:36 pm

If it is really what you wanna do then go ahead. I thought of this myself after a few really hectic wheeling sessions

that short wheelbase feeling aint fun sometimes.

Bobbing a wagon would be much easier though. It definately makes the things behave beatifully.

There was a red MWB /shorty/ute at willoglen I believe also some of cheezys handywork. It looked nearly identical to trent leens (when it was red). Had a Cheezy A frame in the rear with long lower arms and dual shocks all around. It was so stable on off camber situations (Compared to mine) and on the gnarly hill climb on the second day the front didn't even float into the air. Obviously helped by the dual shocks but the MWB treatment had a fair bit to do with it as well.

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:51 pm

Hey matt what u been up too , i think ive got the 4wd bug again u going to the trials?If u r il catch up with u there

Ive checked out bartso truck and looks good but i wanted to keep the rear body work minus the roof if i could , and i know its prolly easier to buy a wagon and chop it up but its stilll not the same as a strectched shorty

Im just toying up ideas at the moment but wouldnt mind building a comp,winch truck in the new yr and ive had a shorty as ive said just needed to be strecthed and chopped i reckon

also anyone got any pictures of these MWB trucks u talking about

Post by **ozy1** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:19 pm

i have also thought along these lines, as my shorty didnt like the hill climb on day one, let alone the one on day 2,

if you convert it to a ute, you have less dramas extending th wheel base,

but if you want to keep the SWB body, then you have to moce the wheel arches back, fill in the front, move fuel filler and so on, so its a bretty involved job,

so yas dont like the thrill involved with wheel stands, id, but only at times, and the below pic, was at willowglen, day one, my second drive of the truck off road, felt freaky,

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:23 pm

Yea my shorty was in same angles as urs ozy1 on more than one occasion and i dont like it either , i would like to keep the body just chop the roof into a ute and ,guards and rear quarters to b chopped

Post by **ozy1** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:27 pm

cheezy has done a couple of hot looking jobs, there is alot involved, but im sure you are aware of it, if you find pics, could you post them up,

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:38 pm

Yea i know im still looking for some pictures of them too

Post by **Bartso** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:46 pm

what eva you want to know dude i can tell you

Post by **TUFFRANGIE** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:27 am

This has a wheelbase of around 106in and has kept the full body. Also has an a frame rear. If you are going to the effort of extending the wheelbase i would put in an a frame at the same time

Post by **Wendle** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:08 am

i stretched mine to 100" without any majoy body changes. moved the front axle forward 70mm and the rear axke back 70mm. just need to cut out the guards and lop the rear quarter panels off. make 5-link front and 4-link rear tio suit. i didn't even move the coil mounts on the chassis and never had any problems.

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:39 pm

TUFFRANGIE u got any more pictures of that rig?

Post by **GQTrav** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:43 pm

Here's one

If you click on the link below you should be able to find quite a few

http://www.offroadimages.com.au/OE/Even ... /OBC05_44/

Post by **LmcD** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:46 pm

hey rockmutt i had my shorty stretched to 106" and retained all the body. very involved job but well worth it. give cheezy a call as he did mine trents and dean kilmurray's

Post by **beretta** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:39 pm

same car in those two pics....Rohan Canavan (spelling?), blown 5.3 chev, off its head!

NICE! Wheel base def helps him on the climbs, he drove some of the tuff hills at the alpine challenge like they were nuthin and I didn't see any mono action from it.

Post by **Davidh** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:15 pm

I believe Krimnl (Darren Green's) ute is a MWB.
Should be heaps of photo's of his ute on offroadimages.com.au at the Alpine Challenge.

Post by **Bartso** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:33 pm

mine is now 110"

given mine is a ute there is alot of work involved i haven't driven mine yet but i hope its a big improvement on stability

Post by **Snatchy** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:55 pm

Here are some more

Post by **JemmyBubbles** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:24 pm

Whose sweet rig is that orange one. Who ever built that has some killer skillz. Gosh

Post by **TUFFRANGIE** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:41 pm

If you are talking about the car in the large pictures i posted above then i can tell you that it is Rohan Canavan's car. He and Cass Jones built it, it has a supercharger corvette 5.3 motor in it, around 285kw at the 35in BFG Krawlers, it is running gu diffs and KINGS Coilovers and Triple Bypass Shocks with an A frame rear with overall wheelbase of around 106in. He was jumping it off a motor bike jump the other day and getting about 1.5-2m of air under the tires and jumping further than the motor bikes. The landing is unbelieveable just absorbs it up and no nasty rebound. It is a similar suspension setup to the Paris-Dakar cars.

Cass and Rohan have some great fabrication skills and some good new ideas they are willing to test and see if they work. They are also great blokes.

In this cars first 2 events they came 6th at the outback after missing the first day finishing building the car and then won the Alpine Challenge so expect to see it around up the top of a few more comps to come.

Cheers
Rob

Post by **JemmyBubbles** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:36 pm

Jaw dropping...

JIzz everywhere...

Got any pictures of the obviously heavily braced diffs

Post by **ROCKMUTT** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:09 pm

Now that sounds like a weapon of a truck

Going the wheelbase extension would b a lot easier if cut the whole ass of the body of wouldnt it??

was thinking like these couple pictures, i reckon they can look good this way too

Post by **ozy1** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:27 pm

Wendle, one question for you, moving the front diff forward would be good, but, what dod you do with your front shock mounts, did you elongate the hole the pass through, as there isnt a great deal of room there,

Post by **Screwy** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:49 pm

Bartso wrote:mine is now 110"
given mine is a ute there is alot of work involved i haven't driven mine yet but i hope its a big improvement on stability

Mines been lengthened out the same way as yours with ute cab etc... obviously mine is leaves being an MQ, but the differences are the same.

I can garuntee the stability increase is massive, mine can hold heaps bigger side angles than it used to be able to thats one thing for sure... Mines now at 106 inches

Screwy

Post by **Wendle** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:28 am

ozy1 wrote:Wendle, one question for you, moving the front diff forward would be good, but, what dod you do with your front shock mounts, did you elongate the hole the pass through, as there isnt a great deal of room there,

yeah. open the hole up and move the lower shock mount onto the link mount (5-link)
also need to move the panhard mount on the axle.

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