Truck build up! new drawers nearly finished

[UAV]

hey guys

i am sort of modifying my truck, but i am doing it on the cheap so i thought i let everyone no what im doing.

so far i have a 1989 pajero wagon 3.0 v6
that i got for free cause my parents were going to trade it in and get nothing for it, so i took it off their hands, this is why i am doing it on a budget.

219000kms
brakes just overhauled and valve stem seals just fixed.
3.0 v6
Full elecs incl. rusted shut/leaking sunroof fixed with duct tape
Pioneer head unit
GME uhf CB & ariel
front and rear mud mats
supercheap seat covers
recovery kit
ironman springs 2' lift
cranked torsion bars
33in claws

[Hekta]

1989, Is that Gen I ?

Dude if you do a 2" spring lift, you should be able to run 33's

If you end up doing a 2" body lift aswell you will be able to run 35's

There are threads on here about how to do body lifts, check the sticky's up the top of the forum

Edit: Here's one

[UAV]

ok i sourced some GQ rear springs and they look massive. i got them from pedders they were just about to throw them out so i got em for $20, bloke at the wreckers tried to sting me $100. so i might have a go at putting them in tomorow.

also i had a look and my torsion bars and i am confused as to how i adjust them to get more height any info would be appreciated

now i have also read about disconecting the rear sway bar to get better rear wheel travel. does this affect on road handling and i also tow a trailer for work every day will this be affected.


trying to get pics to work aswell[/img]

[rhymus]

Check this for details on cranking the bars.
http://www.4x4wire.com/mitsubishi/tech/ ... rsion_bar/
Have fun.

[UAV]

Check this for details on cranking the bars.
http://www.4x4wire.com/mitsubishi/tech/ ... rsion_bar/
Have fun.

thanks for that, the site also has info on budget rear spring change that is similar to what i am doing with the GQ springs that i got for the rear

[UAV]

some pics at this site no good ones though

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2095680/1

[Noisey]

Be careful with how much lift this will give the rear of your rig. I tried some standard GU springs in the rear of my 92 shorty a couple of weeks back and it gave me an additional 3 inches of lift (that is on top of the 2 inch body lift and a 2 inch suspension lift I already run) Hey it's nice to see the road but a meter or so in front of the car is a little bit close for my liking.

Hopefully the GQ springs work better for you in a LWB but you will always be governed by the IFS front as to how high you can raise the rear.

Sound like you got a good start though on a project vehicle as they don't come much cheaper than a freebie.

My advice - take your time and hunt around for bargains. Research evrything as much as you can before making a big mod and learn to use the search function on this forum (not only in the mitsu section but the whole shebang) You can do a lot a mods on the cheap especiallly if someone has done all the hard work before you and ironed out all the bugs.

Good luck to ya !!

[UAV]

well i put in those GQ springs on friday. and as it turns out that 2in lift that i thought i was getting turned out to be 5in, so unfortunately i had to take it out. and now i will have to buy so springs for her. what are say king springs worth

[mrbitchi]

If you're set on doing it cheap, cut a coil or two off the GQ springs with a GAS AXE. Not like you're going to stuff up the rates or anything, they're allready the wrong springs.

If you want to fit Kings, for a 2"lift, cost is about $150 for the NH.

[corkhead]

gday UAV,

where bouts are you ? where do you go bashing ? next time your heading out shoot me an email .... haydn@jenke.com.au .... always up for another mud run ...although next 3 weekends are out ....

ive done a few mods to mine .... so basically the same except you have the power options

[UAV]

gday UAV,

where bouts are you ? where do you go bashing ? next time your heading out shoot me an email .... haydn@jenke.com.au .... always up for another mud run ...although next 3 weekends are out ....

ive done a few mods to mine .... so basically the same except you have the power options

hey corkhead,

i live in knox city area, where abouts are you, im a bit of a beginner so i havet done lots of wheelin but when i do go me and me mates go to gembrook and local spots and where ever else we can go

[UAV]

can anyone tell me what prices for the micky thompson baja claws or simex centipedes 33x12.5x15 cause im thinking of getting a good set of tyres just for off road instead of buying cheapies

[UAV]

considering getting simex jungle treckers 33x11.5x15

[klrevo]

true that UAV, awesome tyre, whats the price u got on a set of those? dont they come in 32/34" only??? did u get 32"s??? got piccies mate, im looking forward to getting new tyres in the new year and im very keen on the JT2's, just not the prices that i thought they were, u buy new? or secondhand? got them on yet? hit us with some pics mate

dean

[Bitsamissin]

Yep the JT2's are an awesome tyre.................
I have 34x11.5x15" on 15x8" rims.
They measure out to 34.6x11.9" IMHO you will need 5.29's with a 3.0V6 to turn them ok and 2.85 t/case gears for offroad.
Not really a daily driver tyre but perfect to bolt on for those hard day trips - awesome in the slush and in some ways better than a Centipede particularly lateral grip.
The only problem with this tyre is that it doesn't come in a true 35" like the Centipede. But I know 35" JT2's are being tested at the moment but they are worried that it will become the no-1 selling tyre ahead of the Centipede and they will be stuck with a lot of old stock.
With tyres for a Paj (if your serious about offroading) forget 32"s and go straight to a 33". A cheap way to go is leave the standard road tyres/rims as the daily driver and get a set of 33" Mongrels as bolt on's.
Daryus has 33x12.5x15" Mongrels on 15x8" white steelies and they go really well. Cheap at around $220/tyre plus $55/rim.
To go the next level (35"s) requires some serious mods like body lifts, diff & t/case gears.
A 3.5V6 (5sp) will handle them better but an auto will need 4.90's for sure.

[UAV]

havent got tyres yet but i should have them in the next few weeks, cant really afford them atm cause i have been off work following a shoulder operation. but yeah i will order simex in either a jungle or extreme trecker in what ever size is closest to 33x12.5x15. im keeping my original wheels and tyres for on road use so i dont chew through petrol and i also tow a trailer for work so it just wouldnt be safe running 33s. i would love to run 35s but its too much hassle and too expensive atm so i thought id just get 33s for now and see how id go.

[UAV]

also my next concern is a snorkel, i was going to make one from pvc pipe but its just looks to crap and i cant justify $500 odd for a safari snorkel, are any other solutions, or does any 1 have a second hand 1 floating around. (high hopes me thinks)

[PajeroSRV]

You should be able to do up a snorkel for less than $500....alot of the guys are going to pipe & tube these days, and it does look good if done right.

However, if you do end up going with the safari snorkel option, keep in mind that the NG air filter does not line up with the safari snorkel. You will need to do a bit of fabricating to get the snorkel to hook up to the air filter.

You'll need a bit of pipe (to act as an adapter) and some flexible plastic tube. Best to line it up via the template to figure out the lengths & angles. (As I don't know them off the top of my head).

Also if you're going for a 33 then go for the Jungle Trekker....because if you're intending to go the Extreme Trekker then you may as well get the mongrel in a 33.

[klrevo]

hey UAV, and a few others i dont understand, for me, paying 220 odd for a monoform tyre just doesnt stand when after a bit of hunting around i can get brand spanking new Nankang Mudstars for $180 a tyre fitted and balanced, and apparently theyre a bit of alright too i just cant justify paying 220+ for a tyre that isnt even brand new

UAV, iv just plumbed up my snorkel and can be seen in the "THE SNORKS" thread ina mintue when i upload the piccies, ill get it going,

ciao

dean

[PajeroSRV]

klrevo - Its pretty simple. The mongrel simply annihilates the mudstar offroad.

[UAV]

i have a mate that works at a tyre shop and i can get 33x12.5x15 mud terrains similar to bfg on rims but i didnt really think the tyre was agresssive enough and as for the mongrels i would rather pay a little bit more and get new tyres that get old tyre

[klrevo]

yeh see i dunno, maybe its just me, but appears not to be cos UAV is kinda saying the same thing, but i cant justify 220 odd for second hand tyres, and im sure they have to test the carcass and sidewalls and shit, but to me its still just a retread, i dont care if its a monoform, which is just a fancy name for a sidewall to sidewall retread anyways, so for 180 bucks f+b id rather go mudtsars than mongrels, and if not then exactly what UAV has said, pay 30 bucks more a tyre and get somethig decent....

i dunno thats just what i think, i know mongrels are mad tyre, ESPECIALLY for the price, but i just wouldnt buy them, if they were 100 bucks a tyre, different story

dean

[UAV]

pics
hopefully they work

[PajeroSRV]

yeh see i dunno, maybe its just me, but appears not to be cos UAV is kinda saying the same thing, but i cant justify 220 odd for second hand tyres, and im sure they have to test the carcass and sidewalls and shit, but to me its still just a retread, i dont care if its a monoform, which is just a fancy name for a sidewall to sidewall retread anyways, so for 180 bucks f+b id rather go mudtsars than mongrels, and if not then exactly what UAV has said, pay 30 bucks more a tyre and get somethig decent....

i dunno thats just what i think, i know mongrels are mad tyre, ESPECIALLY for the price, but i just wouldnt buy them, if they were 100 bucks a tyre, different story

dean

I guess seeing is believing. Get mudstars (or any other standard muddie) in the bush and in the goop and compare them to mongrels.

To be honest, i'm just a bit surprised that you feel they're not 'decent' what are you basing that on? Ever tried a set....or seen them in action, on road or off? Bit of a generalisation.............

Also, keep in mind that you are getting centipede like grip for about $200 per corner rather than $400. (for a 33') e.g. half price & almost identical performance.

Anyway each to his own.

[Bitsamissin]

Yeah I have to agree with Darius there after seeing a few sets of Mongrels in the slop they perform very well.
Heaps of guys are running them without any dramas although you won't get the life of a brand new tyre. But who cares if they are just weekend warrior bolt ons - you will get more than your $$$ worth.
If you want a 33" tyre to do everything (and are willing to pay for a new tyre) then Procomp X Terrains are a pretty good allrounder as is a BFG mud.
It really depends on what you want to do with your truck and how much you want to spend.
But heaps of guys ask me this and my reply is always the same - if your on a tight budget go the Mongrels as a second set. If your got the $$ go the JT2's or Centipedes (particularly in Victoria = mud).
IMHO the Simex's are a better bang for buck tyre than a Claw or Swamper which are it's main competitors.

[klrevo]

yeht hats definitely fair enough, im not basing it on any facts that i have, im driving cooper st's but yeh, i dunno, i guess yeh id definietly have to drive them before id buy them, but it could also be that im a lil bitch and dont like mud ahhahha ill stick to the rocks anyday

dean

[UAV]

well me and a few mates went or a little trip to anglesea for the day for a swim cause it was hot and a bit of wheeling was a good fun hot day

that turned into a long hot day with a bit of rain after my mate snapped his tailshaft at the diff so didnt get home till 1230am after spending 4 hrs in geelong trying to fix to drive home but ended up hiring a tandem trailer and driving home and it took over 2 hrs and when i got home i realised i my tranny was leaking pretty bad at the cooler.

[UAV]

well i went down to trail track and outback b4 to get some prices, (top blokes down there by the way) anyway i got prices for mt radial claws on wheels $360ea and a 2in body lift $600 so what do you guys rekon?

[M1S3RY]

well i went down to trail track and outback b4 to get some prices, (top blokes down there by the way) anyway i got prices for mt radial claws on wheels $360ea and a 2in body lift $600 so what do you guys rekon?

The body lift could be done by yourself for ~$150 all you need is a mate or two to work a couple of jacks, having said this, mine is an NH so not absolutely sure if yours needs anything extended as mine didn't.

[1hzzzz]

Getting back to the cheep spring thing, I have done what was sugested on the Americam 4xwire sit re latter model Paj springs (I used 1996) in my Gen1 and got 2" lift SWB, if what you read in the forum is correct re coil spacers from the GQ you should be able to get the same lift for your LWB and on the cheep.
I picked up the springs for $30 each from the wreckers they are genuine paj springs (no probs with insurance) and are progressive to boot. They give a great ride, I also picked up some arb shocks (front and rear) from a Gen1 at the same time from the same wrecker, must be lucky some times....