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2H Muffler

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Post by vanzbrown »

What mufflers are you blokes running. My 2H has extractors and a big arse muffler (straight through?, ie. Pipe is lined up at both entry and exit points) at the rear. Would maybe like a cheap replacement muffler to get a bit more sound coming out the back end (just bling factor)


Cheapest way just to get rid of muffler all together, or not advised. Have heard a turbo muffler is a little smaller (ie. Louder)


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Post by carts »

2 1/2 inch exhaust from turbo to end. Straight through muffler. I have tried removing my muffler and it sounds cool, like a mack truck....just a little too noisy.
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Post by bigboystonkatoy »

wat size pipe have u got ? just cut the muffler out and infill a peice the same size. sounds good but not too loud
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Post by vanzbrown »

How is pipe measured? Inside, or outside diamerter... im guessing 2 1/2 or 2 1/4. Its a non turbo, so no muffler wont be too loud?
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Post by joel HJ60 »

How loud id loud? My mate has a WRX with a 3 inch pipe and it's loud! I couldn't give a rats how loud it is :cool: any performance benefits?
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Post by joel HJ60 »

Novice question, the muffler is the pretty big thing kinda back near the rear (passenger side) tyre kinda? :oops:
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Post by carts »

joel HJ60 wrote:Novice question, the muffler is the pretty big thing kinda back near the rear (passenger side) tyre kinda? :oops:


Yes. Its the only thing in the exhaust on the HJ60 apart from the exhaust pipe. Usually located in front of the rear passenger tyre.

My muffler is actually located between the chassis rail and the transfer case, the most part being protected by the bash plate of the transfer case.
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Post by joel HJ60 »

If a new exhaust is put in, what happens to the muffler? Do they just weld it on the new one, or do we get a new one?
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Post by MarzBar »

Hi Guys...

Here's my 5cents worth. I ran my old non turbo patrol without a muffler and found it to be quite noisy (Too noisy for the boys in Blue), Also I noticed a big decline in performance. I beleive all engines requise some back pressure (which is usually privided by the muffler) removing the mufler reduces the back pressure and the performance suffers. With turbo vehicles the turbo provides the back pressure so when you remove the muffler the vehicle will get a fair bit louder without a very noticeable drop in performance. Severeal of my mates temoved mufflers of their Turbo Diesel rigs and they clain it maade thier trucks a bit more responsive.

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Post by MarzBar »

Hi Guys...

Here's my 5cents worth. I ran my old non turbo patrol without a muffler and found it to be quite noisy (Too noisy for the boys in Blue), Also I noticed a big decline in performance. I beleive all engines requise some back pressure (which is usually privided by the muffler) removing the mufler reduces the back pressure and the performance suffers. With turbo vehicles the turbo provides the back pressure so when you remove the muffler the vehicle will get a fair bit louder without a very noticeable drop in performance. Severeal of my mates temoved mufflers of their Turbo Diesel rigs and they clain it maade thier trucks a bit more responsive.

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Post by joel HJ60 »

echo...echo.... ;)

So a muffler purely is for a bit of back pressure and to obviously muffle the sound coming out of the exhaust?
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Post by carts »

joel HJ60 wrote:echo...echo.... ;)

So a muffler purely is for a bit of back pressure and to obviously muffle the sound coming out of the exhaust?


pretty much...
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Post by vanzbrown »

Ok, just went and did some measuring...

it goes, EXTRACTORS, 2 1/2 pipe to the muffler, then 2 1/4 pipe out the back (about 1.5m of twisted pipe i might add).

The last 5cms or so is badly flattened due to constant wackings of it between the ground and the rear bumper.

Yeah, im going to go see the exhaust place on monday. See what they can do.

Hopefully not too much $$$.
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Post by joel HJ60 »

Let us know how you get on
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Post by MarzBar »

Hi

I would recomend you get a sports muffler put on it. It will give you a nicer note. i tend to beleive that Turbo mufflers shoud stay on turbo vehicles... A good non turbo sports muffler should be what you need.
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Post by HJ60_HEATHUS »

MarzBar wrote:Hi

I would recomend you get a sports muffler put on it. It will give you a nicer note. i tend to beleive that Turbo mufflers shoud stay on turbo vehicles... A good non turbo sports muffler should be what you need.


by 'sports muffler' do you mean those hideous things morons put on crappy little hatch backs that make their cars sound like a rippin fart?

if so, no thanks!
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Post by MarzBar »

When i said sports muffler i meant a mufflet that gives the exhaust a bit more flow by means of design...and not one of those reterded lookins stainles steel byckets morons put on their sick looking hyundai excels
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Post by joel HJ60 »

vanzbrown wrote:Ok, just went and did some measuring...

it goes, EXTRACTORS, 2 1/2 pipe to the muffler, then 2 1/4 pipe out the back (about 1.5m of twisted pipe i might add).

The last 5cms or so is badly flattened due to constant wackings of it between the ground and the rear bumper.

Yeah, im going to go see the exhaust place on monday. See what they can do.

Hopefully not too much $$$.


How'd you go? What muffler did you end up getting and why?
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Post by vanzbrown »

MarzBar wrote:When i said sports muffler i meant a mufflet that gives the exhaust a bit more flow by means of design...and not one of those reterded lookins stainles steel byckets morons put on their sick looking hyundai excels


lol, i knew what ya meant! :D
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Post by vanzbrown »

:armsup: Ok, well im rapped...

Got the new muffler on, and the new stainless 2.5in tail pipe. (muffler sits about mid way between motor and rear of car) A few mufflers were tried and this one sounded the best. Although it has offset entry/exit points, the 2.5pipe (previously 2.25) seems to make everything run a bit easier.

After a little bit of driving, am happy with sound, not too loud, but just a bit gruntier.

Seems to rev a lot easier, and now downshifts under revs a lot easier. Not sure if this is a result of less backpressure. Will be interesting to see how it crawls down hill now when i take it out this weekend.

Anyways, ill see if i can get some pics once the sun comes back up...

Oh, and all up it was $180.

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Post by vanzbrown »

Ok, pics... Excuse the size/quality :twisted:

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Post by mudpog »

U gotta b kidding BLING factor :roll:
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Post by joel HJ60 »

Hahaha same as mine, but mines not chrome just silver. How good does it sound! D

And dude come one, it's all about the bling factor :finger:
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