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WE Rock - Finals - Milbrodale NSW 19/20 November

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Post by Red Bull RockIt »

It just dawned on me what it might be...money says it is the short panhard from the rear pulling the front up...look at the right right front tyre. It is flat into the sidewall and the right rear shock is already collapsed. In turn, the only thing left free to pull is the left front tire. A longer lever on the rear panhard might tame that down. No big deal as Bec's car was still predictable...well, except for the rollover on day 1...wow, did that car raise up FAST.

I do see now that the cable is definitely loose.
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Post by Daisy »

Red Bull RockIt wrote:PunkBus and Shane...nice pics!

I loved this shot of Bec:
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Wondering if I can get a high res version???

Hey Daisy...look at this pic and tell me something:
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Was your winch a little tight there or was that just a fully loaded suspension? It is hard to tell because the right shock is extended a bit...but that does not mean the winch wasn't tight enough to pull the left tire off the ground...?
FYI, we didn't use the winch on our crawler all weekend and never even considered hooking it up as the suspension was that well balanced. If yours is the same, I'd recommend unhooking it unless you KNOW you're gonna need it. That strap hanging below your rig WILL eventually catch on something and cost you bigtime.
Dustin,

My winch cable was loose as demonstrated in another picture below.

When i drove that line i was very close to gettin my right rear tyre hittin that cone, so beebee(spotter) put a log there and i did a slight rear burn which ended up nearly tipping my buggy and i knew it was driving nearly flush on the rim and i just simply corrected it once i had cleared the cone.

Yes i ran a small amount of water in both my front tyres. In the picture below you should be able to see my winch cable is loose. And the shocks nearly or maxed out on the drivers side..

BTW they are awesome pics :D :D

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Post by Red Bull RockIt »

Rear burn can load the crawler in funny ways so that explains more of that. I was wondering how in the world you ended up in that position and it is always fun to figure out what happened as often enough you find little changes to the car or driving technique that can make the team perform even better. Right there, simply dropping into a front burn would drop the front end without changing aything else. You wouldn't even have to mave forward, only the change in loading would drop the tire and you could then stay in front burn, go to 4WD to drive out without re-picking that tire, or go immediatly back to rear burn to move further from the cone if needed and continue until the front picked back up (if it even would at that point), then repeat with the unloading via front burn and do it all again...
OR, maybe a tweak to the panhards would change the loading characteristics of the crawler, but that would take time and testing to see if it would provide a competitve advantage. In my opinion, I'd try lengthening the rear panhard on one of the moonbuggies or try that on one of the newer ones to see the difference. Building in a negative 5 degree panhard angle at ride height would be a good starting point.

Cool pics and thanks for playing along as I tried to figure out how you found yourself in such a kickass wheelie!
Rock On,
Dustin Webster
"Creative" driver for the
Red Bull RockCrawling Team
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