Narva Air Horns

Post by **Rb25sil80** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:30 pm

Hey guys I drive a 93 Feroza Widetrack and I desperately need to upgrade the horn. Current horn would be rivalled by a little girls bike bell, it is totally pissweak, i had to give a guy 3 blasts to move at a green light the other day and im not even sure I heard the damn thing !

Solution = Fit air horns !

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Narva-Twin-Trump ... dZViewItem

Got my eye on those bad boys, just not sure if they are going to be those gay musical air horns or nice big blasting ones the truckys have. Also would they need to have an air compressor attached to run them? Would appear they are just 12 volts so no other bits and pieces should be needed to get them working?

Any of you guys running Air Horns?

Cheers
Brad

Post by **mkpatrol** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:44 pm

Do you have a flame suit?

Mk Patrol ducks for cover

Post by **beretta** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:48 pm

They're okay dude, had em on my last truck but they don't like getting dipped in the drink. They need an aircompressor because they run on compressed air. They are much louder than a normal car horn and are really good as long as you mount them very carefully so no water goes in the horns and then into the compressor, otherwise it will kill the compressor. So they'd be fine if you never went near water.

Post by **ausyota** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:52 pm

The kit you posted the link to doesnt need a separate compressor as it has its own small one.
the trouble is they sound g.ay

they are too high pitched.
what you want is a truck air horn but to run one you will need a comp and a tank and a pressure switch and a solinoid and... somewhere to mount the 2-3 foot long beast.
I have a truck air horn mounted under the tray of the lux

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I love giving people a blast when they dont give way at roundabouts

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Paul.

Post by **Rb25sil80** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:57 pm

Ahh thats what I was worried about, getting a gay sounding horn. And I do quite alot of creek crossings and playing in bog holes so I dont think they would last very long.

Cheers for the advice guys

And as for the flame suit comment. get fuc*ed

Why should I worry about being flamed asking a simple reasonable question in a forum designed for such? You could have offered some advice like the other 2 guys or just not bothered posting.

Any other options for horn upgrades? Might try one out of a different car I think.

Cheers
Brad

Post by **bigpat** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:28 pm

Mate i fitted the SuperWorks ones from Supercheap Auto. Only cost $30 for the complete kit! Sound OK in my opinion, better than the stock Toyo horns, that's for sure!!

I just mounted mine in the back-left corner of the engine bay, so they stay nice and dry. Plenty loud enough from the outside despite their location. For $30, what have you got to lose?......

Post by **bigpat** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:29 pm

Mate i fitted the SuperWorks ones from Supercheap Auto. Only cost $30 for the complete kit! Sound OK in my opinion, better than the stock Toyo horns, that's for sure!!

I just mounted mine in the back-left corner of the engine bay, so they stay nice and dry. Plenty loud enough from the outside despite their location. For $30, what have you got to lose?......

Post by **Rb25sil80** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:39 pm

Yeah might be worth a try I guess.Seems that everything int he engine bay gets a coating of mud after a bog hole session, not sure how long they will last !

How much wiring is involved for them? Is it just a + and a - ? Did you just piggyback yours off the standard horn or is extra wiring and relays involved?

Cheers
Brad

Post by **phippsy** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:10 pm

Wiring is much the same as if you were running driving lights switched off the high beam wiring. You can use a relay for the pump so it gets 12v from the battery and use the horn wire to switch the relay.

I think the standard horn only has 1 wire to it anyway and uses its own mounting bolt for the earth.

Post by **chimpboy** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:39 pm

Personally, I would just get a horn from a wreckers, out of any car that you think has a decent sounding horn, and fit that. Costs less, sounds better, and is more durable, imho.

Jason

Post by **pongo** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:40 pm

on my 4runner I just mounted Standard type 2 horns together . Works heaps better.

My jag has 2 horns fasctory under the front number plate. Its dam loud

In my patrol im too ashamed to use the horn on that 1, People just say wow that sounds cute

Post by **turps** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:58 pm

pongo wrote: In my patrol im too ashamed to use the horn on that 1, People just say wow that sounds cute

Me too.
I am sure it is another thing out of the Pulser or Micro parts bin.

A mate had an XP with the best horn, but the prick sold it before I had a chance to swap it for my patrol one.

Post by **blkmav** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:42 pm

I fitted these http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogu ... maint=2095

Post by **dogbreath_48** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:45 pm

Some of the horns they put in the modern medium sized trucks (like tow trucks) are LOUD! They're just the usual electric buzzer sort...

Otherwise i reckon 75 series cruiser horns sound ok!

-Stu

Post by **HEY CHARGER** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:21 pm

What about these

blow you hair back i reckon !!

Check this one out , and press the hear horn button pisser !!!

http://www.florawrecker.com/cgi-bin/miv ... ode=WOL837

Post by **Gruntahunta** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:30 pm

I have a set of twin electric horns off my old xm falcon on my patrol and they are louuuuuuuuuuuuuud!!! I keep swapping them to my new trucks all the time.
A set of italian Fiaam twin electric horns are bloody loud and demand attention. They are red and black and look similar to the black ones posted above. Not real dear either.............Pete!

Post by **BundyRumandCoke** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:34 pm

You mean something like this under the bonnet of the Daihatsu.

These are set up with virtually an endless air, A/C compressor, tank, and solinoid, running at about 110psi. LOUD.

Post by **ausyota** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:53 pm

BundyRumandCoke wrote:You mean something like this under the bonnet of the Daihatsu.

These are set up with virtually an endless air, A/C compressor, tank, and solinoid, running at about 110psi. LOUD.

They would be loud but I bet they are also high pitched.
You need a longer trumpet to get a deep note.

Post by **bigpat** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:51 am

My Supercheap ones are mounted in a similar position as in the pics. I just snipped the signal wire to the stock horn and went directly to the compressor. Seeing its only used for 1-2 secs, I didn't bother with a relay, and it works fine.

I did however mount them facing slightly downwards, so any water tha entered would trickle back out. Never had a prob though, underbonnet stays pretty clean as I use rubber sheet in the guards to close off the wheelarches to the engine bay......

Post by **BundyRumandCoke** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:08 am

Mine certainly are not high pitched. Next locomotive you see passing, have a look at the length of them, not very long at all. Its fine if you have a heap of room to fit a 3 ft horn, but if space is at a bit of a premium, you have to be a bit realistic.
I usually have to warn people who want to hear them to block their ears.

Post by **Rb25sil80** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:27 pm

Thanks for all the replys guys. Heaps of options and things to think about!

I think I shall just try and find a less gay sounding horn at the wreckers and swap it over. Failing that, the $30 supercheapies shall be tested

Cheers
Brad

Post by **phippsey** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:16 pm

BundyRumandCoke wrote:You mean something like this under the bonnet of the Daihatsu.
These are set up with virtually an endless air, A/C compressor, tank, and solinoid, running at about 110psi. LOUD.

I've got one of those at home, but if it is to run I guess it will need a tank to supply air. How did you go about installing a switch to activate the horn??

Second - What about those musical ones at supercrap auto??

Post by **eliteforce32** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:53 pm

they would be just about gay enough for u phips

Post by **phippsy** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:32 am

eliteforce32 wrote:they would be just about . enough for u phips

hahaha

Post by **BundyRumandCoke** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:07 am

If you look at the pics of my set up, you can see the solinoid between the horns. Black hose is the airline from the tank to the solinoid, and the two wires are direct to the standard horn wires.

The horns came with a small tank, and pressure gauge, cost about $130 a few years ago. The original set up was the tank had a tyre pump connector, and you were supposed to refill the tank at a servo when needed. I just modified the whole thing so as it is all automatic. I fitted an ARB pressure switch and hooked this up to an A/C compressor. Now, after a lot of mucking around, the system works perfectly, and has done so for about 4 years.

Post by **phippsy** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:49 am

BundyRumandCoke wrote:You mean something like this under the bonnet of the Daihatsu.

Mine are pretty similar if not the same as those, but the solenoid on mine sticks once it gets more than about 80psi behind it and the horn won't work until some air is let out and the pressure on the solenoid drops

Post by **BundyRumandCoke** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:58 am

Try unscrewing the solinoid from the mount, and spraying into it with some WD40. There may be a bit of crap in there that is making it stick. It takes about 150psi to stop mine working. I just release some pressure through the relief valve.

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