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Post by numbnuts »

Have a 4.2td gu 2000, has 3inch dunp + exhaust,k/n air filter new fuel filters. It just hesitates when accelerating. goes good to about 2000 rpm then holds back then goes good to about 3000 rpm then holds back then goes ok to about 4500rpm. Can anyone tell me a good diesel mechanic up south in Adelaide?
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Post by BIG GQ »

WHY would you rev a TD42T to 4500rpm???????????? It does nothing more for it after about 3300-3500rpm :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Post by numbnuts »

I have gone from petrol cars to petrol 4x4 to 4.2 diesel gu (first diesel) because always towing about 1.5 to 2.5 tonne, maybe im asking to much from the patrol. IT mite just be me?
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Post by matthewK »

u kidding me? GU 4.2d has got some guts behind it
strong motor

could be just the driver use to faster petrol 4by? and
could need a timing/service done to it
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Post by sudso »

Direct Automotive just off Sherrifs Rd. on the service road near the expressway exit.
They also do LPG fumigation for all diesels too.
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Post by bigbluemav »

4500rpm :shock: :shock: :shock:

Check the torque curve on it man...........you're getting good torque @ 2000rpm. Maybe 2500rpm giving it a bit off at the lights 3000rpm in 1st/2nd low up a hill or in deep sand but 4500rpm :shock: :shock: :shock:

I've NEVER revved my TD42 (n.a.) past 3500rpm and that was a boo boo. usually it goes no further than 3000rpm.

Its not a petrol. The reason you bought a diesel is stump pulling torque LOW in the rev range. The people behind you must love the black smoke :D :D :D :D


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Post by numbnuts »

no smoke, had my son drive behind me Even with foot flat to floor no smoke. I don't understand why theres none.
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Post by Hoonz »

BIG GQ wrote:WHY would you rev a TD42T to 4500rpm???????????? It does nothing more for it after about 3300-3500rpm :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
why not? .... my TD42T pulls all the way to 5k all useable power
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Post by dirtyGQ »

numbnuts wrote:Have a 4.2td gu 2000, has 3inch dunp + exhaust,k/n air filter new fuel filters. It just hesitates when accelerating. goes good to about 2000 rpm then holds back then goes good to about 3000 rpm then holds back then goes ok to about 4500rpm. Can anyone tell me a good diesel mechanic up south in Adelaide?
i think you can buy an upgrade kit for that model the intercooler is the same as the 2.8 i believe.
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Post by beretta »

Hoonz wrote:
BIG GQ wrote:WHY would you rev a TD42T to 4500rpm???????????? It does nothing more for it after about 3300-3500rpm :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
why not? .... my TD42T pulls all the way to 5k all useable power
Because more revs doesn't necesserily make more power, not past 3300 - 3500rpm, depending on how its set up. Yours might have power all tha way to 5k buts its not a stock motor is it?
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Post by Hoonz »

no its not a stock motor :p :twisted:
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Post by bazzle »

Up to a useable 3000 to 3500 it should pull smoothly. Check fuel filter can keep up. Change that and air filter .

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Post by bogged »

bigbluemav wrote:I've NEVER revved my TD42 (n.a.) past 3500rpm and that was a boo boo. usually it goes no further than 3000rpm.
same, I dont see any point to it!
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Post by Hoonz »

boring old farts :finger:
no really my wagon rarely sees 3500 DD application
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Post by murcod »

numbnuts wrote: Can anyone tell me a good diesel mechanic up south in Adelaide?
There's a place in Regency Park (not south of the city I know....) that the inlaws had their GQ 4.2 turbo diesel fixed at about a year ago. They were very happy with the service (full pump rebuild due to it leaking everywhere.) If you want I can get the name.
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Post by not not »

Could be a fracture in the pump housing as ive got that problem now and in a certain rev (not all the same) it will sortove like chock then power on again.

And hoonz how do you rev it to that ? I thought all deisels have a guverna in the pump or have you removed this?
Governed to about 4400/4600 i think
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Post by Hoonz »

:twisted:

you won't get a stock engine to rev to 5000 multipul mods
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Post by Hoonz »

and yes mine is capable of over revving and destroying itself
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Post by NICK »

i agree with hoonz, and to everyone that asks why rev it to 5000.....cause he can!!!



but it sounds like a fuel problem to me, or the waste gate isnt functioning properly. had the same problem with my surf.


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Post by numbnuts »

Just come in from work, thanks for reply.
I don't drive it up to 4500 rpm, i just tried it the other day to see how it pulled trying to sort out this problem.
I have replaced the fuel filter and the air filter but didnt change a thing.
if it was a petrol i would say it had all the signs of plugs breaking down under load or water shorting out the leads.
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Post by Juzza »

bogged wrote:
bigbluemav wrote:I've NEVER revved my TD42 (n.a.) past 3500rpm and that was a boo boo. usually it goes no further than 3000rpm.
same, I dont see any point to it!
You live and drive in Vic and you still don't see any point to revs, sometimes 5000 rpm is the only thing that will get you up those long slippery clay hills............
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Post by sudso »

Juzza wrote:
bogged wrote:
bigbluemav wrote:I've NEVER revved my TD42 (n.a.) past 3500rpm and that was a boo boo. usually it goes no further than 3000rpm.
same, I dont see any point to it!
You live and drive in Vic and you still don't see any point to revs, sometimes 5000 rpm is the only thing that will get you up those long slippery clay hills............
5000rpm = momentum
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Post by Hoonz »

mass + velocity = momentum :finger:
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Post by revin »

We used to have one of these at work ,when ever we fuel up with Ampol Diesel it would clog up the little guaze filter on the pump itself.Maybe worth having a look see how this filter is
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Post by heathgu »

You could try using a inline helper pump, mine runs a 80 gallon an hour pump to feed to injector pump. Cause the injector pump could not get enough fuel. Also help starting on the side of hills

Just find a low pressure pump say 5-6 psi. Like a Holley Red Pump etc.

Mine was doing to same until I fitted my helper pump.

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Post by -Scott- »

Hoonz wrote:mass + velocity = momentum :finger:
mass x velocity = momentum
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Post by Hoonz »

NJ SWB wrote:
Hoonz wrote:mass + velocity = momentum :finger:
mass x velocity = momentum
same shit different shape :finger:
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Post by numbnuts »

its funny you say about the extra pump heathgu, i have a sloping driveway and if i park facing up hill it hard to start in the morning but face the other way and no problems. I will try the pump tomorrow and let you know thanks.
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Post by numbnuts »

tried the pump, nothing changed. I am off to graham west performance Thursday for a dyno.
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Post by adamant »

mate my old man had the same year model in a wagon, same engine same problem, took it to every deisel mechanic that was recomaned, and not one could get it going probly, only had 30,000 on it when he sold, took it to well known people to like berima, nissan just scrated there heads, so they were no use, we put it down to being a dud! we both have 05 model gu utes know, that have pulling power from the word go with no hesitation at all. ive heard of this same problem from other people too, i think theres a bad batch from that model.
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