Starter relay?

[Loanrangie]

The missus's 89 2.2ltr 626 wont start, new battery fitted as seemed likely cause, still wont crank at all, fuel pump is whirring away but not even a click out the starter. Trying to find the starter relay if there is one, starter will be a biatch to get out so trying to avoid if possibel.

[mud4b]

it will more than likely be the starter solinoid.

it is located on the starter..

[Loanrangie]

Thats what i thought but without a manual wasnt sure if it had a realy or not.

[-Scott-]

Solenoids (the small can-shaped thing attached to the starter) have a nasty habit of sticking. Beat the crap out of it with a pipe and see if that shakes it loose.

Scott

[Loanrangie]

Ok, i think if i can rebuild a motor and do a couple of lpg conversions i will know a solenoid is and where to find it . Anyway it is a pita to get to but the old tap it with a hammer worked so is it worth me pulling the solenoid apart and greasing it or just be done with it and replace it, it has never been any trouble before this hiccup.

[wayne74]

if ya pull it out id be checking ya brushes too

[murcod]

the old tap it with a hammer worked so is it worth me pulling the solenoid apart and greasing it or just be done with it and replace it, it has never been any trouble before this hiccup.

DON'T apply any grease - that's what causes them to seize as it attacts dust , dirt, grit etc. I was told by a guy who rebuilt them for a living to use silicon spray or nothing at all.

I overhauled mine as it was sticking about two years ago and it's been fine since. I used aerosol silicone spray as a lubricant after thoroughly cleaning it all.

[RaginRover]

seriously just buy a replacement starter or solinoid and fit it- I pulled the solinoid down and lubed it twice with lanox in my 626 and then my brother in law bought it - had the same thing - from memory an exchange starter complete with solinoid was $150 - Ashdowns.

Tom

[fool_injected]

The solinoid performs two functions
1. It 'throw' the drive gear to engage with the fly wheel
2. Its a relay to supply the motor

If you get the click click but no start its the throw out part which could mean the coil is breaking down or the motor brushes are stuffed or the motors windings are stuffed

If you dont even get the click its the contacts in the relay part

Either way it needs replacing

Because you hit with hammer I would say it's just the solinoid
As mentioned a new(reco) starter is beeter as the motor has new brushes and bearings
But if you think the motors still good you can but just the solinoid seperatley ( just got a reco'd one from the local auto elecy for $30)

cheers
wayne

[Loanrangie]

I rang a local auto lec, he said he can rebuild the solenoid for about $50 or a changeover starter for $140. I will take it out and get it looked at, if it will last another year or so i'll just get the solenoid done.

[murcod]

You guys are all boring.....

What's wrong with getting your hands dirty and investigating how things work (or don't work.....) and then fixing it yourself?

[Loanrangie]

If its my car yes i will pull it apart and fix myself, the swmbo's car, that has priority as its my life on the line !

[SWAT]

Do you know if it is a reduction Starter?

If it is the problem is most likly Solenoid Contacts around $25 and easy to fit

if not then the problem is most likley Brushes or a Voltage drop to the opperaiting wire for Mazda is known for, and can be fixed by wiring in a relay around $10

Tapping the starter will cure both problems when tapped

Let me know if you would Like to know more