Hi everyone. As a new convert to 4x4, I would like some opinions on a suitable winch for a Feroza or should I consider a tirfor (just for normal everyday exploring in case I get stuck ). Anything else I should carry?
Bob
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Winch or tirfor?
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You can go either way, there are pro's and con's for both.
Electric winch, more expensive, quicker to use, normally only winches forwards or forward angle, normally requires a battery upgrade or second battery, harder to install, extra weight permenantly at the front.
Tirfor, less expensive, more versatile- can winch forwards, backwards, sideways, right a rolled vehicle, slower to set up and use, more labour intensive, can be used for lifting.
These are just some of the fores and againsts. Im sure others will add to my lists.
One point regarding the Tirfors, especially if you intend to buy new and go genuine Tirfor brand. A T508 is all thats needed for a Feroza. A T516 is overkill. The smaller winch is lighter, cheaper, and just as reliable. It has a smaller winching capacity, but a Feroza is a lighter vehicle. Team it with a snatch block, and winch extension strap, shackles, and tree protector, and you should be fully set up for self recovery.
By the way, I carry both in my Rocky, a Factory PTO winch, and a T508 Tirfor, snatch block, extension strap, tree protector, shackles, ect ect.
Electric winch, more expensive, quicker to use, normally only winches forwards or forward angle, normally requires a battery upgrade or second battery, harder to install, extra weight permenantly at the front.
Tirfor, less expensive, more versatile- can winch forwards, backwards, sideways, right a rolled vehicle, slower to set up and use, more labour intensive, can be used for lifting.
These are just some of the fores and againsts. Im sure others will add to my lists.
One point regarding the Tirfors, especially if you intend to buy new and go genuine Tirfor brand. A T508 is all thats needed for a Feroza. A T516 is overkill. The smaller winch is lighter, cheaper, and just as reliable. It has a smaller winching capacity, but a Feroza is a lighter vehicle. Team it with a snatch block, and winch extension strap, shackles, and tree protector, and you should be fully set up for self recovery.
By the way, I carry both in my Rocky, a Factory PTO winch, and a T508 Tirfor, snatch block, extension strap, tree protector, shackles, ect ect.
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Rocky's had a factory winch option??? 
Go the leccy if you can afford it. But i cant imagine a roza really needing a winch unless your modding it heaps. A snatch strap and another car is all you need if its mud (that or rocks do nicely
) andf its rock, your going to stop and turn arounbd long b4 u need a winch cause of all the banging on the underbody
my 2c neway.
Go the leccy if you can afford it. But i cant imagine a roza really needing a winch unless your modding it heaps. A snatch strap and another car is all you need if its mud (that or rocks do nicely
) andf its rock, your going to stop and turn arounbd long b4 u need a winch cause of all the banging on the underbodymy 2c neway.
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F70, Yep, there were both factory PTO, and factory electric winches for F series Rockys. Pretty scarce here in Oz. But surprisingly, in a town of about 30000 people, there is a vehicle fitted with each different winch here. They are the only ones I have seen yet, anywhere.
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what is a Tirfors
Ok I know a winch, but what is a Tirfors.
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A Tirfor is a hand winch. Tirfor is actually a brand name. The patent ran out a few years ago, so now there are quite a few copies. ARB, Black Rat, to name a couple.
These winches are different to the cable on the drum "come-along" type hand winches that you buy from places like Supercheap.
Tirfors are a 3 piece winch, winch body/cable/handle come as seperate pieces. The winch has 2 sets of jaws inside, that alternatively grip and release the cable as the handle is worked back and forth. The cable passes straight through the winch, and have a workable winching capability of around 20 metres.
These winches are different to the cable on the drum "come-along" type hand winches that you buy from places like Supercheap.
Tirfors are a 3 piece winch, winch body/cable/handle come as seperate pieces. The winch has 2 sets of jaws inside, that alternatively grip and release the cable as the handle is worked back and forth. The cable passes straight through the winch, and have a workable winching capability of around 20 metres.
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hard work
Alot of hard work then. I think I like the winch ... LOL, but i still have neither. just two 50 foot tow ropes.
Dance, like nobody's watching (As usual)
Sing, Like their all deaf (Thank god)
Live,
SPEND, because you can't take it with you. (live in DEBT)
Sing, Like their all deaf (Thank god)
Live,
SPEND, because you can't take it with you. (live in DEBT)
and thats why you never go alone even if you can get ur self out when ur bogged what if u roll or ur car breaks down u have to walk how ever far to neerest civilization and call a mate or call some one who can fix itBundyRumandCoke wrote:Which will do SFA to help you if you happen to get stuck on your own anytime.
just my 2c
cheers
elliot
Will do SFA
Unless you tie both to a tree and your vehicle, feed a substantial tree limb through it and start twisting around and around.
Very slow, very painfull but does work! Very dangerous on a slope as the tension builds up in the ropes. as the vehicle moves closer the pressure is released and the process starts all over!
IMHO go with a tirfor style. More versatile, less wieght and transports easily to your next vehicle. Also great around the home!
Very slow, very painfull but does work! Very dangerous on a slope as the tension builds up in the ropes. as the vehicle moves closer the pressure is released and the process starts all over!
IMHO go with a tirfor style. More versatile, less wieght and transports easily to your next vehicle. Also great around the home!
Will do SFA
Unless you tie both to a tree and your vehicle, feed a substantial tree limb through it and start twisting around and around.
Very slow, very painfull but does work! Very dangerous on a slope as the tension builds up in the ropes. as the vehicle moves closer the pressure is released and the process starts all over!
IMHO go with a tirfor style. More versatile, less wieght and transports easily to your next vehicle. Also great around the home!
Very slow, very painfull but does work! Very dangerous on a slope as the tension builds up in the ropes. as the vehicle moves closer the pressure is released and the process starts all over!
IMHO go with a tirfor style. More versatile, less wieght and transports easily to your next vehicle. Also great around the home!
if you prefer the winch idea, you can always get a platform made up to hold the winch with a hitch tube on it. that way you can have a hitch reciever on the front and the back. thus the winch can be used in both directions when needed. also allows for you to move it overo your next rig when the time comes.
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