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99 rangie questions for rookie
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99 rangie questions for rookie
been offered a great deal on a 99 rangie and need to know some things from u rover legends!!!What should i look for? repairs are $$$$ i have heard. Is one worth taking offroad without major dramas? What kind of cheapish modes can be done to improve offroad performance. Is this rig more a road car than offroader? Any advice will be appreciated.
wouldn't buy a 99 rangie for any kind of offroad work personally - comfy road cruiser, but offroad it starts to lose appeal - the air suspension makes it a little tricky to lift, they only come in auto, and i don't believe there is much hope of easily fitting flares....
84 Rangie, 3 inch spring lift, 2 inch body, Megasquirted 4.6, R380, rear Maxi, 34x11.5 JT2s. Simex FM installed.
'99 onwards is the way to go rather than the earlier '95-98.
Look for XA in the VIN. This is when BMW put all the Bosch stuff in and reprogrammed a lot of the logic to relax a bit. Problems become just that, problems that you can usually fix yourself - not stressful limp home to dealer fixes. At the end of the day the electronics are only reporting mechanical issues - once you understand that it's just another Range Rover with the usual quirks. See my post of Big Black Hot Sausage - typical crap but probably not unique. I've never had the electronics freak out, always a mechanical fault and usually easy and cheapish to fix. Forums like this and rangerovers.net are a big help.
The Land Rover Dealers/Mechanics are the biggest issue - they tend to use your wallet rather than commonsense to diagnose a fault. I'm over 'em.
I was once quoted $3,000 to replace a fusebox that was causing the HEVAC Book icon to appear. Instead I spent $30 on 2 relays, problem solved, icon disappeared.
Carry a few spare relays, get a copy of RAVE and you'll be right.
Air Suspension kicks arse. Load levelling is best attribute plus hunkering down for better handling at speed.
The hardest part about lifting is finding correct length shock absorbers.
You can wack in longer springs or have larger pistons custom built for about $100 ea.
Refitting a popped spring trackside is piss easy, just need a safe approach to jacking vehicle.
Stick a diff locker in back, get some chunky tyres and you make a very comfortable tractor in the true English sense.
Aquarangie may attest to the offroad abilites of a slightly modded P38a.
But yeah, if you want a proper hell's gates offroader, get a bombed classic RR or Defender.
At the end of the day they are just another car that no-one has been game to modify en masse - so there's not a lot of info/resources out there. Yet.
Below pic of me at LCMP chugging up steep track. Note Classic RR at base with broken front diff.
Below pic of my new Arnotts Gen III rear airsprings, yet to be fitted.
Claimed offer 3" additional travel plus better ride on/offroad due to revised profile of piston. Being fully ring crimped top/bottom means it can't pop off trackside. (But I can)
Good Luck!
Hardy
Look for XA in the VIN. This is when BMW put all the Bosch stuff in and reprogrammed a lot of the logic to relax a bit. Problems become just that, problems that you can usually fix yourself - not stressful limp home to dealer fixes. At the end of the day the electronics are only reporting mechanical issues - once you understand that it's just another Range Rover with the usual quirks. See my post of Big Black Hot Sausage - typical crap but probably not unique. I've never had the electronics freak out, always a mechanical fault and usually easy and cheapish to fix. Forums like this and rangerovers.net are a big help.
The Land Rover Dealers/Mechanics are the biggest issue - they tend to use your wallet rather than commonsense to diagnose a fault. I'm over 'em.
I was once quoted $3,000 to replace a fusebox that was causing the HEVAC Book icon to appear. Instead I spent $30 on 2 relays, problem solved, icon disappeared.
Carry a few spare relays, get a copy of RAVE and you'll be right.
Air Suspension kicks arse. Load levelling is best attribute plus hunkering down for better handling at speed.
The hardest part about lifting is finding correct length shock absorbers.
You can wack in longer springs or have larger pistons custom built for about $100 ea.
Refitting a popped spring trackside is piss easy, just need a safe approach to jacking vehicle.
Stick a diff locker in back, get some chunky tyres and you make a very comfortable tractor in the true English sense.
Aquarangie may attest to the offroad abilites of a slightly modded P38a.
But yeah, if you want a proper hell's gates offroader, get a bombed classic RR or Defender.
At the end of the day they are just another car that no-one has been game to modify en masse - so there's not a lot of info/resources out there. Yet.
Below pic of me at LCMP chugging up steep track. Note Classic RR at base with broken front diff.
Below pic of my new Arnotts Gen III rear airsprings, yet to be fitted.
Claimed offer 3" additional travel plus better ride on/offroad due to revised profile of piston. Being fully ring crimped top/bottom means it can't pop off trackside. (But I can)
Good Luck!
Hardy
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Yes, Hardy's rig is well set-up and does perform exceptionally well off-road. Follows me almost everywhere unless panel damage occurs od course
Old man's got an 98 Rangie 4.0 (pre XA series), only had a couple of niggly air suspension faults and replaced the air springs but for the last 18 months of ownership it's been good. Although it needs work in the climate contriol deaprtment (new eveaporator, at $1200 plus another $1200-1500 for fitting ) but so far since Dad bought it it hasn't cost all that much so he's not too concerned about the climate control. Plus it leask like a seive too so it needs to be repaired pronto
Have a good look around and be patient. Some of the cheap and nasty ones look tempting but unless you know what you're doing steer clear. Get one with a good service history and regular matenance, you may pay a bit more but sometimes better off that taking a chance on a cheaper example and paying big bucks later on.
Anyway, good luck with it.
Trav
Old man's got an 98 Rangie 4.0 (pre XA series), only had a couple of niggly air suspension faults and replaced the air springs but for the last 18 months of ownership it's been good. Although it needs work in the climate contriol deaprtment (new eveaporator, at $1200 plus another $1200-1500 for fitting ) but so far since Dad bought it it hasn't cost all that much so he's not too concerned about the climate control. Plus it leask like a seive too so it needs to be repaired pronto
Have a good look around and be patient. Some of the cheap and nasty ones look tempting but unless you know what you're doing steer clear. Get one with a good service history and regular matenance, you may pay a bit more but sometimes better off that taking a chance on a cheaper example and paying big bucks later on.
Anyway, good luck with it.
Trav
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