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Gooday guys
I was hoping for some help on someone. Im in the market for a 4.5litre petrol cruiser either 80 or 100 series. A friend has a 100 and they thing goes anywhere. Im leaning more towards the 80 based on the money i have. I would like one with reasonable km's without gas but what is high km's how long do these things go for.
How much is a rebuild?
What are mechanical differences between 80 and 100?
Are the 80's as good of road?
What price is good?
What are common problems? What years should i avoid?
Are there many differences in years?
What should i expect out of fuel economy?
Last of all is anyone interested in a Diesel GQ Shorty with all the offroad accessories you would ever need. Maybe the wrong forum to ask
cant really help you with much of that mate but the car you see in my avatar there has just been totaled!
and im thinking of buying an 80 series next, but your GQ shorty sounds interesting. how much are you asking?
cheers mate
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mate i now drive an 80 and have to say a swb diesel patrol kills it and i have had two my shortie went were 80's fear(for the same amount of lift acc's etc) spend the money right on shortie and it is unstopable
patrol's do not break front diff's when going backwards do not lose second gear because they want too do not break timing belts and stop on the side of the road (my hilux with 20000 on new belt done by the pros not me)and i could park the shortie on a hill with just the hand brake on 80's hand brake's are a joke, fix the shortie
and mate the money you will save driving a diesel swb over a petrol 80 in a year will pay for any mods the fuel bill will be big
Well i have the shorty and a 4.5 hundred kills it mainly in the sand due to no turbo on the diesel shorty. And i kinda think if i spend more money on the shorty with a turbo i will get more power from a 80 series without modding it and putting the motor at risk of a costly bill. I have spent about 10k -15k extra on the shorty with things like TB42 to TD42 conversion, paint job, touring seats, muddies, suspension, snorkel, difflock and all the other stuff to keep it and be happy with it and save my money?? Im sure everyone must have these thoughts one day or another. Please help with thoughts???
trr35l wrote:mate i now drive an 80 and have to say a swb diesel patrol kills it and i have had two my shortie went were 80's fear(for the same amount of lift acc's etc) spend the money right on shortie and it is unstopable
patrol's do not break front diff's when going backwards do not lose second gear because they want too do not break timing belts and stop on the side of the road (my hilux with 20000 on new belt done by the pros not me)and i could park the shortie on a hill with just the hand brake on 80's hand brake's are a joke, fix the shortie
and mate the money you will save driving a diesel swb over a petrol 80 in a year will pay for any mods the fuel bill will be big
I don't entirely agree with all of that. Yes the diffs can blow if driven hard inreverse. However having a maverick turbo diesel with 2 diff locks and an 80 4.5 auto with opens diffs (until next week when i put the locker in until the nissan diff conversion) both have 3-4 inch lift. I can't bring myself to drive the maverick at the moment cause the cruiser is so comfortable, capable. Feels more stable as well. Don't know how it will go in the long term, but so far so good.
i own a 94 GXL 80 series 4.5 manual. its done 318,000km and never misses a beat. (life of the vehicle depends on its servicing and how the car is treated. ive heard they can last to 600,000km) mines had the part time kit done. (full time has alot of slap in the drivetrain) the thing goes like the clapper. but is a bit thirsty doing so. driving hard gets about 20L/100km. (that was with 35s and 3 inch lift) easier driving improves it a bit.
i recon they are alot more comfortable than a GQ. full electrics arent everyones cup of tea, but ive had no dramas with them. alot more stable on the road. (GQs 'wheel lift' too easy, and its not always a good thing)
mine has front and rear lockers and with 35s, alot of go pedal and a side step of the clutch with the front locker in ive managed to blow one of the AVM hubs. just be careful of hard acceleration in reverse with big tyres as stated before due to the smaller sized hi pinion diff. (ive only blown hubs not CVs or diffs) but if your doing sand driving i wouldnt be too worried about diffs and CVs.
take note of fuel figures a mate has a 4.5 twin cam 80 and got a second car to drive to and from work because it is cheaper to buy,rego and insure it than run the 80
i had two swb patrol's and one coil cab ute all diesel and one turboed ran great, three inch lift and 33's factory lsd and there was not many places it would not go
mate if you have spent 10-15k on the patrol keep it as you will get nothing to sell it and than the 80 will need lockers (if any tells you the lsd works they do not know shite) lift wheels tyres and you do not know how good cond it is in ie mine drove great on the test drive now no second gear now much to fix??????
in the end your money but for me the shortie wins hands down
Mate Ive had heaps of 4bs 4 6 and 8 cylinders diesel, turbo diesel lockers big tires bla bla bla.I bought a 95 80 series of an old couple a year ago and its the most comfortable well built 4wd Ive had by far. Nothing has come loose nothing rattles and it drives perfect all the time.I used to have vibrations before and after I lifted it Plus the fact the windows rattle things were falling off etc.Strong rig for sure but drove like a tractor.The 80 is great off raod and is a pleasure to drive on the road.I get down to 14.5 ltrs per 100 when driving easy thats with part time kit etc.I have an 80 again but only for off road duties
My 2cents
Yep i have spent twice what i am selling the maverick for but still can't bring myself to drive it anymore. Feels old and dated against the 80 series. Even with it's few weak point I am prepared to live with it to get there in comfort. Mind you the 80 wagons i saw at tough tracks went pretty hard. MMMM electrics and comfort. I don't reckon it picks up wheels as easy either compared to the maverick. I was just surprised how stable and well it went. Although a GU would feel nice and have the strength
from what i have seen and read the 80s can be a very capable and comfortable rig, depending on what you want it for, for eg for touring the 80 will ahve alot more space than the shorty, i have friends with 80s and they seem to drive very hard with no huge mods, then again i have also seen 80s with big mods driving some hardcore shit.
i depends on what you want to do as in 4wding and how much you want to spend to make it do what you want
i have a little Bundera and it gets a floggin most the time but it does have some comforts, powere steering, power windows, even a power lumbar in the seat, oh a kick arse sound system that doesnt usually skip when 4wdin
a few pics of a friends 80
evan
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evanstaniland wrote:from what i have seen and read the 80s can be a very capable and comfortable rig, depending on what you want it for, for eg for touring the 80 will ahve alot more space than the shorty, i have friends with 80s and they seem to drive very hard with no huge mods, then again i have also seen 80s with big mods driving some hardcore shit.
i depends on what you want to do as in 4wding and how much you want to spend to make it do what you want
i have a little Bundera and it gets a floggin most the time but it does have some comforts, powere steering, power windows, even a power lumbar in the seat, oh a kick arse sound system that doesnt usually skip when 4wdin
I have an 80 series that I have converted to an extra cab ute that I compete in. Yep blew up a few front diffs but have got it pretty well sorted now. I went 4.88 diffs and since then have not had a problem. I compete in tough tracks and a few other winch oriented style events and now that i have the diffs sorted it is one tuff reliable rig. The other big problem I encountered was outer axles. Most of the after market CV's I was using snapped outer axles and spat out through the freewheeling hub, taking out stub axle and free wheeling hub at the same time. Genuine or decent aftermarket (Nitrated or similar) CV's are an absolute must if you are going to drive hard.
