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What's with the 4.8 Patrol?

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What's with the 4.8 Patrol?

Post by gu4800 »

Only just noticed that the (new) GU IV Patrol 4.8 has 180 kW and 400 Nm, whereas the earlier ones (GU III) had 185 kW and 420 Nm.

Did they mess around with it when they updated to the new body?
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Re: What's with the 4.8 Patrol?

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gu4800 wrote:Only just noticed that the (new) GU IV Patrol 4.8 has 180 kW and 400 Nm, whereas the earlier ones (GU III) had 185 kW and 420 Nm.

Did they mess around with it when they updated to the new body?
Maybe they detuned them so they would use less fuel ... :D

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Post by gu4800 »

Don't worry - that was actually the first thing that came to mind!
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Post by Simo63 »

gu4800 wrote:Don't worry - that was actually the first thing that came to mind!
:rofl: :rofl:

Actually it is a bit unusual for a manufacturer to go backwards with HP figures however it might be that they were a bit optimistic in the first place?? Maybe they are setting it right now?

Or was the earlier model 185 Bhp or crank HP? Maybe the earlier one was measured at the flywheel and the later at the wheels? Is that possible?
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Post by blkmav »

I believe it to be due to emissions compliance
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Post by Simo63 »

blkmav wrote:I believe it to be due to emissions compliance
Like stricter Euro III standards? Might be right as that's on the short horizon for manufacturers ... apparently thats why GM dropped the Gen III motor in favour of the 6.0 litre L76 ... the Gen III didn't meet euro III spec.
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Post by mickyd555 »

while on the 4.8 topic, does anyone know if the handbrake on this model is on the diff??

more importantly, anyone know what is in this pic??
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Post by gu4800 »

mickyd555 wrote:while on the 4.8 topic, does anyone know if the handbrake on this model is on the diff??

more importantly, anyone know what is in this pic??
1) If you mean if it is a typical handbrake or transmission handbrake - the answer is typical handbrake.

2) Can't help you with the pic.
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gu4800 wrote:
mickyd555 wrote:while on the 4.8 topic, does anyone know if the handbrake on this model is on the diff??

more importantly, anyone know what is in this pic??
1) If you mean if it is a typical handbrake or transmission handbrake - the answer is typical handbrake.

2) Can't help you with the pic.
cheers, that about all i needed to know apart from how i make it so that this doesnt get used anymore....

i already got a handbrake on my transfer case.
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Re: What's with the 4.8 Patrol?

Post by bogged »

gu4800 wrote:Only just noticed that the (new) GU IV Patrol 4.8 has 180 kW and 400 Nm, whereas the earlier ones (GU III) had 185 kW and 420 Nm.

Did they mess around with it when they updated to the new body?
search the Patrol forum, there are plenty of negative changes on the new 4.8.. robin went to trade his in, and the dealer couldnt tell him why he should.
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Post by ats4x4dotcom »

plenty of 2nd hand 4.8 patrols around at the moment, with fuel prices making them hard for the trade to move, meaning the 2nd hand price of them has dropped.
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Post by bogged »

ats4x4dotcom wrote:plenty of 2nd hand 4.8 patrols around at the moment, with fuel prices making them hard for the trade to move, meaning the 2nd hand price of them has dropped.
shit yea.. down to $32k for a few recently... :D

4.5's down to $16k and thats Ebay!
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Re: What's with the 4.8 Patrol?

Post by RN »

gu4800 wrote:Only just noticed that the (new) GU IV Patrol 4.8 has 180 kW and 400 Nm, whereas the earlier ones (GU III) had 185 kW and 420 Nm.

Did they mess around with it when they updated to the new body?
Slightly off the thread but has anyone know of a 4.8 being put in a GQ?

Is the bottom end of the motor ( ie crank) completely different from the 4.2 and 4.5?

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Post by mugsy »

Also of topic, anyone how the 4.8 goes on gas?
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Post by AFeral »

Simo63 wrote:
blkmav wrote:I believe it to be due to emissions compliance
Like stricter Euro III standards? Might be right as that's on the short horizon for manufacturers ... apparently thats why GM dropped the Gen III motor in favour of the 6.0 litre L76 ... the Gen III didn't meet euro III spec.
Gen III lump meets does meet euro three. Just finished working with Elfin they got an engine through pretty easy with a bit of help from Holden
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Post by AFeral »

Simo63 wrote:
blkmav wrote:I believe it to be due to emissions compliance
Like stricter Euro III standards? Might be right as that's on the short horizon for manufacturers ... apparently thats why GM dropped the Gen III motor in favour of the 6.0 litre L76 ... the Gen III didn't meet euro III spec.
Gen III lump meets does meet euro three. Just finished working with Elfin they got an engine through pretty easy with a bit of help from Holden
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Post by Simo63 »

AFeral wrote:
Simo63 wrote:
blkmav wrote:I believe it to be due to emissions compliance
Like stricter Euro III standards? Might be right as that's on the short horizon for manufacturers ... apparently thats why GM dropped the Gen III motor in favour of the 6.0 litre L76 ... the Gen III didn't meet euro III spec.
Gen III lump meets does meet euro three. Just finished working with Elfin they got an engine through pretty easy with a bit of help from Holden
Is there an echo in here?? :)

I read in a car mag (not sure if it was Wheels or what) that the gen III doesn't meet Euro III specs in it's standard mass produced form hence GM worldwide has dropped it in favour of the larger 6.0 litre LS2 or LS76 (can't remember).

Are you saying that it meets Euro III in standard form or that you were able to get one passed with some form of mods? Sounds like the latter if you got help from Holden.
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