Good afternoon,
I am interested in getting a mid 90's Discovery, paying around 10k. i need a car that is competent offroad, and can do miles comfortably( more so than my Sierra!). Are the any issues that i should take care in looking for other than the regular servicing checks, higher miilage and under body scapes? Do they have any inherent issues? Thanks for the help.
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The 200TDi was made between 1989 and 1993. The 300TDi between 1993 and 1999/2000, and the TD5 from then on. The LT77S manual was used until 1993 when the R380 was introduced. About that time the ZF auto became available in OZ on diesels as well as V8's. The 200 and 300Tdi are 2.5L 4cyl and the TD5 is 5 cylinder, but still 2.5L. They all should give under 10L/100 if driven conservatively.
All engines are intercooled and all have pretty good performance from stock. The TDi engines have completely machanical injection and can be easily tweaked by increasing the boost and fuelling. There are detailled instructions with pics on how to do this in the rover section.
The 200TDi is a good engine - and able to be very easily tweaked for more power, and the LT77S gearbox is also good, if it is looked after.
The injectors are one piece and cannot be serviced, but they usually last a long time and new ones aren't so expensive.
The early TDi injector pumps (Bosch VE) were prone to the case hardening flaking off some of the internals over time - leading to a pump rebuild. Get a mechanic to pull the engine stop solenoid out and check for metal particles.
There was a lubrication problem on the transfer case input gear of the LT77S (and very early R380s) - check that it has been fixed and a cross-drilled input gear fitted - You just need to pull the PtO cover (rear face of T-case) to check this. If it is worn you will notice a lot of drivetrain backlash, that won't reduce much when you lock the centre diff.
Also check suspension bushes for wear and steering box for leaks.
Apart from rust that basically covers everything. If it all the above is fine it should give you many years without problems.
The 200TDi was made between 1989 and 1993. The 300TDi between 1993 and 1999/2000, and the TD5 from then on. The LT77S manual was used until 1993 when the R380 was introduced. About that time the ZF auto became available in OZ on diesels as well as V8's. The 200 and 300Tdi are 2.5L 4cyl and the TD5 is 5 cylinder, but still 2.5L. They all should give under 10L/100 if driven conservatively.
All engines are intercooled and all have pretty good performance from stock. The TDi engines have completely machanical injection and can be easily tweaked by increasing the boost and fuelling. There are detailled instructions with pics on how to do this in the rover section.
The 200TDi is a good engine - and able to be very easily tweaked for more power, and the LT77S gearbox is also good, if it is looked after.
The injectors are one piece and cannot be serviced, but they usually last a long time and new ones aren't so expensive.
The early TDi injector pumps (Bosch VE) were prone to the case hardening flaking off some of the internals over time - leading to a pump rebuild. Get a mechanic to pull the engine stop solenoid out and check for metal particles.
There was a lubrication problem on the transfer case input gear of the LT77S (and very early R380s) - check that it has been fixed and a cross-drilled input gear fitted - You just need to pull the PtO cover (rear face of T-case) to check this. If it is worn you will notice a lot of drivetrain backlash, that won't reduce much when you lock the centre diff.
Also check suspension bushes for wear and steering box for leaks.
Apart from rust that basically covers everything. If it all the above is fine it should give you many years without problems.
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300Tdi are prone to blown head gaskets if the are overheated. Generally at the rear cylinder. Check for head gasket leaks, particularly feel around the rear of the head.
300Tdi got a bad name for breaking timing belts. The timing case would distort and cause the belt to track off and wear the side of the belt, until it became too narrow and break. This took rover a couple of attempts to cure. Check that any 300Tdi engine has had the upgrade pulleys fitted and when the timing belt was changed.
Generally not much damage occurs when the timing belt breaks. Some pushrods may bend and at worst a rocker arm may be damaged.
The 200Tdi and 300Tdi are a good little motors as long as the cooling and lubrication systems are always up to scratch. They give high performance (for 2.5 litre) and are easily tweaked (simple adjustments) for a good 15-20% more. They can be made to perform better than the rover v8.
300Tdi got a bad name for breaking timing belts. The timing case would distort and cause the belt to track off and wear the side of the belt, until it became too narrow and break. This took rover a couple of attempts to cure. Check that any 300Tdi engine has had the upgrade pulleys fitted and when the timing belt was changed.
Generally not much damage occurs when the timing belt breaks. Some pushrods may bend and at worst a rocker arm may be damaged.
The 200Tdi and 300Tdi are a good little motors as long as the cooling and lubrication systems are always up to scratch. They give high performance (for 2.5 litre) and are easily tweaked (simple adjustments) for a good 15-20% more. They can be made to perform better than the rover v8.
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