wheel spacers ?

Post by **mudpog** » Thu May 04, 2006 3:50 pm

do these make your wheel studs more prone to breaking with a full load

Post by **Roctoy** » Thu May 04, 2006 4:39 pm

depends

Post by **75 cruiser** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:21 pm

i load up my ute with fire wood no problems!i have inch and a half wheel spacers all round!

Post by **bad_religion_au** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:47 pm

two types of wheelspacers to consider tho, the ones that do up, then have offset lug nuts, or the ones that are just a spacer, and they slide over your wheel studs, then the wheel bolts to the same nuts

both put more stress on the studs, the first type less stress than the second

Post by **Beastmavster** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:59 pm

I would never recommend them if you can just buy some greater offset rims.

The rims are normally cheaper too....

Post by **mudpog** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:05 pm

roc70y wrote:depends

well enlighten me then ,depends on wat????
im goin to the cape hunting, vehicle is mostly a get there then the quad will be used type thing ,will be loaded tho,are the chances of snapin studs going to be an issue,thanks bad religion for your help

Post by **mudpog** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:08 pm

Beastmavster wrote:I would never recommend them if you can just buy some greater offset rims.

The rims are normally cheaper too....

thanks for the advice but im not sure if im missing something but rims for under $10 bucks a pop?

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:13 pm

Where can you get wheel spacers for $10 each???

Personally, I would never run wheelspacers, because:
(1) I can my wheels modded to custom offset for $40 a rim
(2) They are illegal for road use, and rightly so
(3) The put extra load on the wheel studs, etc

I wouldn't even think about running wheel spacers for something like a cape trip. And why would you need to run wheels that need wheelspacers for a cape trip?

Post by **mudpog** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:28 pm

because unfotunantly i got a set of tyers that until now (30000) i didnt relise they were just touching a part of the tray when fully loaded ,,yes it a wrong tyre choice i know that now ,but am trying to aviod buying new tyres im just goin thro my options thats all ,probly useing the wrong rims to maybe ,,prado rims on an 75 ser 85mod

Post by **dogbreath_48** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:35 pm

mudpog wrote:because unfotunantly i got a set of tyers that until now (30000) i didnt relise they were just touching a part of the tray when fully loaded ,,yes it a wrong tyre choice i know that now ,but am trying to aviod buying new tyres im just goin thro my options thats all ,probly useing the wrong rims to maybe ,,prado rims on an 75 ser 85mod

How big are the spacers your talking about? They're not the 5mm plastic ones are they?

Post by **RockyF75** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:43 pm

Since u said "where can u get rims for under $10 a pop", i'm assuming your planning on using the crappy lil 'ebay' wheelspacers, which are just metal plates with holes (for your studs) to go through? Not the 'proper' wheelspacers? ( like these - http://www.bbmotorsports.com.au/category11_1.htm ).... the spacers that are just plate are pretty useless, as they can only really give you 10mm max, before your starting to get dangerously low on stud thread.

Spacers or Offsets are both going to decrease the life of your wheelbearings - by exactly how much is anyones guess - but depends on how big of an increase in offset you go.

Basically, if your goin 'ebay' ones, dont bother, may as well just make em yourself. If your going 'proper' ones, again, dont bother, they're illegal on road and cost an arm... so just go with offset rims, $55ea max

Post by **-Scott-** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:00 pm

mudpog wrote:because unfotunantly i got a set of tyers that until now (30000) i didnt relise they were just touching a part of the tray when fully loaded ,,yes it a wrong tyre choice i know that now ,but am trying to aviod buying new tyres im just goin thro my options thats all ,probly useing the wrong rims to maybe ,,prado rims on an 75 ser 85mod

You've got the wrong rims. Don't try to compensate by using spacers - buy the correct rims. They're available off the shelf, so they're not a custom order.

Do it properly.

Scott

Post by **RockyF75** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:08 pm

NJ SWB wrote:
mudpog wrote:because unfotunantly i got a set of tyers that until now (30000) i didnt relise they were just touching a part of the tray when fully loaded ,,yes it a wrong tyre choice i know that now ,but am trying to aviod buying new tyres im just goin thro my options thats all ,probly useing the wrong rims to maybe ,,prado rims on an 75 ser 85mod
You've got the wrong rims. Don't try to compensate by using spacers - buy the correct rims. They're available off the shelf, so they're not a custom order.

Do it properly.

Scott

and get offset rims

Post by **benhl** » Fri May 05, 2006 3:07 pm

[quote="ISUZUROVER"]
(1) I can my wheels modded to custom offset for $40 a rim
[quote]

Where??

i want some!!

Post by **G_loomis** » Fri May 05, 2006 3:45 pm

benhl wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote: (1) I can my wheels modded to custom offset for $40 a rim

Where?? i want some!!

was thinking the same thing!

Post by **alfantz** » Fri May 05, 2006 4:17 pm

I guy in our club used to run wheel spacers on his 60 series. On the way back from Licola the passenger side rear wheel came off around a right hand bend. Luckily no one was hurt but he had a long walk to retrieve his wheel. Big gouge in the road from where the car landed. The bolts sheared off.
No way would I ever go on a trip with this vehicle again let alone put spacers on my car

But I am a bit of a safety freak.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Fri May 05, 2006 4:47 pm

G_loomis wrote:
benhl wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote: (1) I can my wheels modded to custom offset for $40 a rim

Where?? i want some!!
was thinking the same thing!

Anyone in Brisbane who wants rim mods done, PM me and I will give you the number. The guys name is Allan Richardson at Redcliffe. He does the wheel mods at home A/H so I don't want to post his home number.

I had a set of discovery rims (like sunraysias but stronger) modified by him (30mm extra offset, flipped centres, new valve holes, etc). Cost me $45 a rim, but that was 2 years ago so prices may be higher now, but he was half the price of race engineering at the time.

The wheels balanced perfectly after the mods.

Post by **roverlux** » Fri May 05, 2006 7:44 pm

I have had some wheelspacers (3") for a few months and i cannot break em!!! would not be a problem in my opinion. 6 stud lux.

Joe.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Fri May 05, 2006 7:53 pm

roverlux wrote:I have had some wheelspacers (3") for a few months and i cannot break em!!! would not be a problem in my opinion. 6 stud lux.

Joe.

And that really constitutes conclusive proof. (A) you are talking about a different vehicle, (B) a different type of wheelspacer, (C) 3 months is not very long, and (D) where do you mention doing a trip to the cape, fully laden over corrugated roads and washouts???

Post by **GUJohnno** » Fri May 05, 2006 8:26 pm

alfantz wrote:I guy in our club used to run wheel spacers on his 60 series. On the way back from Licola the passenger side rear wheel came off around a right hand bend. Luckily no one was hurt but he had a long walk to retrieve his wheel. Big gouge in the road from where the car landed. The bolts sheared off.
No way would I ever go on a trip with this vehicle again let alone put spacers on my car
But I am a bit of a safety freak.

(They also broke free on a Toolangi trip)

Does that mean I wont see you on any trips...?

AFAIK he has replaced the studs and removed the spacers.

Post by **BOGAN V8** » Fri May 05, 2006 8:48 pm

ISUZUROVER wrote:
roverlux wrote:I have had some wheelspacers (3") for a few months and i cannot break em!!! would not be a problem in my opinion. 6 stud lux.

Joe.
And that really constitutes conclusive proof. (A) you are talking about a different vehicle, (B) a different type of wheelspacer, (C) 3 months is not very long, and (D) where do you mention doing a trip to the cape, fully laden over corrugated roads and washouts???

I ran 2 inch wheel spacers on my hilux for 3 years and never had a problem (never went to cape) but have driven some really hard roads in that time and never stuffed a wheel bearing or studs

Was also running 35s mtr on 15x8 rims

Just my 2 cents

Post by **mudpog** » Sat May 06, 2006 8:30 am

thanks 4 the replys fellas
sounds like its not worth it and a bodgie fix to my problem
think ill just get a new set of rims ,ive been told that sunraysias hav a different offset to the rims ive got on and will solve my prob
anyone know the best place to get some ,im on the nthrn beaches sydney

Post by **roverlux** » Sat May 06, 2006 4:57 pm

And that really constitutes conclusive proof. (A) you are talking about a different vehicle, (B) a different type of wheelspacer, (C) 3 months is not very long, and (D) where do you mention doing a trip to the cape, fully laden over corrugated roads and washouts???

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If you read my statement correctly I said I dont think it will be a problem. no i have never done a trip to the cape, but, i do run them on a purely offroad worked v8 hilux with 35x15.5 inch tyres, which i mostly use around the open cut mine near my house. i will eat my f in hat if that does not put more stress on components than a "corrogated road and washouts"

Cheers, Joe

Post by **Nev** » Sat May 06, 2006 6:29 pm

alfantz wrote:I guy in our club used to run wheel spacers on his 60 series. On the way back from Licola the passenger side rear wheel came off around a right hand bend. Luckily no one was hurt but he had a long walk to retrieve his wheel. Big gouge in the road from where the car landed. The bolts sheared off.
No way would I ever go on a trip with this vehicle again let alone put spacers on my car
But I am a bit of a safety freak.

We had exactly the same thing happen in my mates 60 (didnt we Will!) running 3" spacers except it was a front wheel..again long walk and push back up a steep hill with the tyre. Mind you he was running a 38 bogger...was left with only 2 wheel studs....

Not comparing the 2 situations but the spacers definitely put more stress on the studs as weight is further from base of stud (more leverage) and i wouldnt risk it on a touring style trip especially when you can just get some new rims to solve the issue quite safely..jmo

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