Monroe Gas shocks-shitting me to tears

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Thu May 11, 2006 5:59 pm

OK i cant take it any longer

there just pissing me off
they have no give in them and just shit me off
and i belive its getting to the point of dangerous cos iam getting more experinced every day and iam taking bigger risks and iam findind that he rear is not helping me

I own a hilux single cab 96 model
now what can i come up with the replace the rear shock and be a benifit to me in 4wding

Post by **BigQQQie** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:23 pm

Old Man Emu For all you suspension needs, Drop into your nearest ARB and they will sort you out. but how are you so sure it is your shocks, you have leaf springs in the rear and although the shocks do work they don't actually do alot of work, when used in conjunction with leaf springs. What is the actual porblem you are getting????? is it lack of travel?????? boaty ride?????? have you removed the shock and tested it to see if the valving is stil good????? try some of these things before spending money, But if you are serious about it consider a complete aftermarket set up not just shocks then the benifits will really set in.

Post by **sniper** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:49 pm

rancho or tuff dog is the only shocks i would use, there are some other brands that are good also like bilisten, but i steer clear of OME,XGS just to name a few, i personally dont like they way the handle.

Post by **millers1** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:06 pm

As mentioned in previous post OME want to wear a kidney belt go the others. As I explained before about bore size19ml compared to 36 for other brands. I use myn for touring towing a camper trailer and also some pretty rough shit if going out for a weekend with the other guys, have had nothing break and no headaches at the end of the day due to being jumped around. Any body that has done the cape will know what the ruts up there are like and havnt had 1 OME shock or spring fail on me yet. Where do you live ?? If close I will let you take myn for a run with OME then take my mates for a run wth big bore heavy duty shocks and see the difference. I do not have interest or connections with OME just stating what I have had and what Iv got. Im 38 and have had numerous 4wd's with different springs/shocks and since owning the lux will not run anything else. At the end of the day its your decision and money that will make your decision. Every1 to there own opinion. Regards Steve M

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:07 pm

there is very limited travel
like doing about of a slope it feels as if the thing wants to drop any second

coming down small drop offs its like ther aint any shocks
and on road the end feels like its solid ya do abit of a swurve and u can fell the ass end trying to follow and keep going

Iam after decent travel
in the rear
the front feels fine and seems to take things nice and feels smooth

what price range would i be looking at for a decent setup
dont want anything super tricket out just want a rig that will get me further in my 4wding

Post by **millers1** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:17 pm

Sent you an email. Regards Steve M

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:24 pm

whent out to take a looksy and it seems there is a air hose type thing that u can hook a tyre inflator on to it

could the previous owner set them to very hard or what?

Post by **bj42turbo** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:59 pm

4x4Monkey wrote:whent out to take a looksy and it seems there is a air hose type thing that u can hook a tyre inflator on to it

could the previous owner set them to very hard or what?

They just sound like air shocks, pump them up when towing to achieve correct ride height, piff them off.

BJ

Monroe Air Shocks

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Post by **4x4Monkey** » Thu May 11, 2006 8:14 pm

what ya reckon they would be worth

Post by **BigQQQie** » Thu May 11, 2006 8:19 pm

sound to me like you need a whole suspension system(money permitting) Shocks arn't going to improve travel all that much or ride. definetely put OME in you will not regeret it. but first remove the shock and compress it by hand to set if the valving is still ok(the shock should return to fully open position) also measure the diffenence between full hand on your rear wheels with the shock on and then without this will tell you how much the shock is restricting wheel travel.

Cost depends on what you are after.
Set of 4 OME nitrochargers approx $550.00
Rear Leafs Approx $400.00
Steering Stabiliser approx $120.00
Greasable shackles and bushes approx $200.00
Original torsion bars are fine and can just be adjusted to suit.(take it you vechile is IFS)
Call up you local ARB to get a correct price as all listed above are completely of the top of my head and only Approx.
Fitted correctly and set up correctly the car will improve by 110%
it's worth the price both on and off the road.
but balls in you court you could always just put extended shackles and long travel shocks on the rear as is.

Post by **plowy** » Thu May 11, 2006 8:24 pm

they also do there own cheaper version of ome called the dakar , there built to the same specs but are done overseas not here

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Thu May 11, 2006 9:01 pm

nah mines nof IFS its solid axel up front

Looks like i got some work to do on the week end
Tho money is a big thing for me for the next month Iam in debt

Post by **bj42turbo** » Thu May 11, 2006 9:43 pm

4x4Monkey wrote:what ya reckon they would be worth

to sell the air shocks....not much maybe 20 to 40 bucks

BJ

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Sat May 13, 2006 9:32 am

just got a quote from predders
for a 2inch left kit all the good bushes long travel cell shocks
$2000 thast just the kit not fitted.. i can fit all the gear my self

Post by **dominic** » Sat May 13, 2006 10:21 am

stay away from pedders!
it is just re badged monroe.

i got a quote from 4way suspension for 2-3inch tough dog lift kit on my hilux for a bit over $1500.
full kit not installed -shocks springs and hardware.
from all the research i have done into suspension OME or tough dog seems to be the best ones.but alas i am also in debt and so it has to wait..
cheers
Dom

Post by **simkell** » Sat May 13, 2006 11:00 am

have you considered just having your rear leaf springs reset. also as stated above, take your shocks off and see if they are limiting your wheel travel. take the car for a short drive at slow speeds and see if it is the shocks that is causing your rough ride or that if your springs are to heavey for your setup. beware the arse end will bounce around a bit without the shocks fitted. reseting your leaves will cheaper that buying new ones. talk to decent suspebsion mob, not pedders, they are just after your money. they can discuss with you a good cheap setup for rear of your rig. you will be surprised you should be able to do the rear for less than $800 with all new gear, 0r about 500 for reset leaves and new shocks.

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Sat May 13, 2006 11:05 am

I wont be going down the road of re-setting springs as i belive its a waste of money

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Sat May 13, 2006 11:37 am

OME Dakkar range
$1309
all bush kits steer damper the lot
thats a 43mm lift in the front and 50mm in the rear

Post by **Tiny** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:24 pm

get some mono tubes val=ved to suit, bilstein / ulimate, PM me or email me for more info, but short and sweet you spring holds the weight of the vehicle, the shock controls the spring, the heavier the spring the lighter the dampening stroke should be as the spring is stiffer and the heavier the rebound stroke needs to be to control the higher spring rate trying to get back to ride posiion.

If you have a high spring rate then the shock that would normally suit a standard vehicle will create a varey hard ride and most likly not contol the rebound allowing the car to bounce further up

Post by **ferrit** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:59 pm

I got a quote for $1100 for OME Dakars, HD fronts, MD rears, Nitrochargers, New bushes and new u-bolts supplied.

Ive got greaseable shackles already, so i just need these bits...

And i know what you mean about the monroes... pieces of shit

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:40 am

were was this from

Post by **jigga** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:37 am

bigQQQie,

dont you work for ARB at nundah??!?!?!?!?1

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Sun May 14, 2006 3:55 pm

OK need some more places to visit or call up
Iam in ipswich but iam prepared to travel to brisbane if it means knocking off a few $$$

Post by **sniper** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:46 pm

there is a BBM up in bannana land, you could give them a call

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:58 pm

BBM is what?

Post by **ferrit** » Sun May 14, 2006 11:45 pm

Mine was from the ARB dealer down south of adelaide (morphett vale way)

Post by **dominic** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:35 pm

i think Opposite lock supplies tough dog,you could try them.
Dom

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Mon May 15, 2006 6:07 pm

Iam in QLD

Post by **dominic** » Mon May 15, 2006 8:24 pm

http://oppositelock.com.au/redesign/con ... ?state=QLD

theres a few stores up your way....

Dom

Post by **4x4Monkey** » Mon May 15, 2006 8:33 pm

Moorooka is the go

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