OBC 2006

Post by **morkz** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:48 am

Mani & Kev are still going there motor wasnt that bad and they have posted some fast times on the sand stage this was news from about tuesday so i dont know if they are still comepting but they did do the mud stage first.

Post by **Drafty** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:09 am

Does anyone have any news on Juzza and Alberto from this site in the burgendy dual cab patrol?

Post by **Sandy Pandy** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:21 am

Drafty - Any idea what group Juzza & Alberto are in?

Post by **morkz** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:22 am

Sandy Pandy wrote:Drafty - Any idea what group Juzza & Alberto are in?

they are in the same group as sandy alison and alan mac which i cant remembe the group name but when alison calls me I will ask to see how they are going.

just checked out sootys website (photographer for the event)

here some photos from the first couple of days of comp.

http://www.warlordautosports.com/photo_ ... /index.htm

Post by **Drafty** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:25 am

Thanks guys.

Post by **Bighazza** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:26 am

toughnut wrote:I've pulled the pin as well. As we were driving out to Denian for the sand our pyro gauge was sitting on almost 600 degrees just cruising on the highway. We tried a whole heap of stuff and couldn't sort it out so rather than damage the engine we've called it a day. Guess I'll have to come back next year to make sure I finish it

bugger

Oh well at least you have lots of time to get ready for next year

Post by **80UTE** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:09 pm

Just got some hot info last nights night mud stage had 1 vehicle within the DNF time 3 hyd there engines the water was the the depth of Wayne Smiths chin some of the competitors opted to purposely DNF the stage to avoid damage have heard similar about the day time mud stage having very deep water sections also.

Wally

Post by **Drafty** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:54 pm

80UTE wrote:Just got some hot info last nights night mud stage had 1 vehicle within the DNF time 3 hyd there engines the water was the the depth of Wayne Smiths chin some of the competitors opted to purposely DNF the stage to avoid damage have heard similar about the day time mud stage having very deep water sections also.

Wally

That sort of sh!t is just wrong and shouldnt be part of the comp.

Post by **ann** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:01 pm

offroadimages photos are up.

they are just hiding. click on last uploads and they come up theres just no direct link yet

Post by **bogged** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:07 pm

Drafty wrote:That sort of sh!t is just wrong and shouldnt be part of the comp.

yea was sayin that earlier. lots o $ in it to be out on first event.

Post by **morkz** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:17 pm

anyone wanting to go to the OBC tommorrow and come back on sunday please call me.

Darren's miss' (MsKrim) needs someone to share the drivin in there GU and will be taking up a trailer to rescue the krimnl truck.

0402 449 370

Post by **kirragc** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:51 pm

I dont know that deep water/mud is out of line.
The OC is shaping up to be a truly international event and like the Rainforest Challenge with its Elephant Mudhole needs a bit of ímpossible'stuff.

I thought with the outback the 1st problem was finishing. I feel for the guys that have put their hard-earned in for virtually no competition time. That hurts but it also ensures that only the best cars and drivers get through

Otherwise it becomes another local event.

Post by **GQHOON** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:31 pm

kirragc, I can see your point, but I think with these kind of stages that cost big bucks to fix trucks, will only come down to ppl with quite a bit of money or sponsorship who will or only be able to enter......for the others who just rely on their own money and a great experience, you might see a decline in these type of competitors or competitors not even doing the stage which would be a shame...... tough stages are fantastic and I'm sure competitors enjoy them, it is an Outback Challenge to who drives the best and whose truck is the best, but maybe a little bit more thought on having a stage that can be driveable by all, then the challenge is, who can finish it in time....or if they have a stage llike this, keep it last, not half way through.....then competitors can decide for themselves, by will they or wont they....at least they got to compete in all the other stages and no dissapointment....
But anyway...that's my thought...

Post by **Drafty** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:31 pm

kirragc wrote:I dont know that deep water/mud is out of line.
The OC is shaping up to be a truly international event and like the Rainforest Challenge with its Elephant Mudhole needs a bit of ímpossible'stuff.

I thought with the outback the 1st problem was finishing. I feel for the guys that have put their hard-earned in for virtually no competition time. That hurts but it also ensures that only the best cars and drivers get through

Otherwise it becomes another local event.

Have you done an OBC?

Post by **kirragc** » Thu May 18, 2006 6:06 pm

Drafty I havent done OBC. When thinking about it I just couldnt consider the sort of money required. I see the time, effort and cash that mates have put up and I cant play. Having said that Ive seen guys do all of that and get knocked out with equipment failure early but theyyve had another crack.

Sometimes these obstacles serve to take the competition to the next level.
52 DNFs and 1 team who improvise a solution is an acceptable outcome I think.then the reengineering adn innovation that will go into next years cars are what this sport is all about I reckon.

Dont get me wrong Im probably asking for a flaming saying this after a heap of cars get knocked out but if offroad motorsport (or any motorsport) were cheap and easy we would all be doing it.

Post by **bogged** » Thu May 18, 2006 6:32 pm

kirragc wrote:52 DNFs and 1 team who improvise a solution is an acceptable outcome I think..

yes, that is great for competition.

Post by **Drafty** » Thu May 18, 2006 6:49 pm

As you mentioned it does raise the level of competitor and vehicle, but at what cost. You said it yourself " I see the time, effort and cash that mates have put up and I cant play" It shouldnt come down to who has the bigest check book, everyone including yourself should be able to compete without thinking will i have a drivable truck after the event.

From a competitors perspective and i think this has been displayed by the amount of DNS's the risk of destroying the vehicle is to high and there are some seriously competant and crazy guys out there who have said no to this stage. Common sence as displayed by the competitors should have also been used by the organisers on this one.

Post by **gqpete** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:09 pm

I understood the idea of this event is to be fully self sufficient for it’s entirety- Meaning he who has the most $$$ isn't necessarily going to win. (that’s why there is 100pt penalty for outside assistance) Tell me this, how are you suppose to fit a spare engine in the back?????
Mrs Hoon #1

Post by **kirragc** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:20 pm

I agree with both Drafty and Mrs Hoon1. I have also seen a lot of crazy driving in very expensive cars.
To be honest I dont think we have any idea what has gone on in the last few days due to the patchy feedback.

If the water/mud was up to Smitty Jnrs chin that puts it around '6 foot deep. I suppose the debate should be about whther the cars competing in this event should be reasonably expected to face something like this.

Does anyone remember the first year they came up against a creekbed wall. It was up to ten feet in parts but a solution had to be found.

Post by **E49** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:43 pm

There is a diffrerence between 6 foot of water and a 10 foot wall.
And that is on the wall the vehicle is not going to suck in a engine full
of water while the guys figure out the best way to tackle it...

Post by **gqpete** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:48 pm

Sorry but I agree.
This is an annual event and is very expensive-
I think it would be best to allow those who spend a whole year saving in order to possibly do this event once in their lifetimes, enjoy it as much as possible for as long as possible....
(Get their moneys worth)
Sure you can still do damage in a winch will but theirs a 90% chance you won't. Go sit your 4x4 in a pool of mud for 1hr and you’re almost guaranteed to be doomed. To me this doesn’t show one’s driving competence! Only how lucky you are -like tattslotto.

Has anyone heard any new feed back on todays stages about anyone from vic????

Post by **meiamaro** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:56 pm

Very interesting coversation...
With all the talk of $$$$, what, without being too personal, would a ballpark figure be to compete in such an event.
I know how longs a piece of string, but an idea would be great.
Yes one day i too could be lucky enough to compete in such an adventure.
Also i've followed this event for years and have noticed the evolution of
the vehicels that compete,do people think that it's going to get to the point
of "cheque book racing".

I saw it alot when i was rallying.

So the more info we have the more we understand.

Cheers Ian.

ps, keep the cool pix coming.YES i'm jelous.

Post by **PMT** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:00 pm

kirragc,
yes i remember the first year, i was there. Tell me how many vehicles have had to pull out of the event due to damage done on a cliff hanger type stage, maybe a couple that i can remember & i've competed in 3 OBC & officiated in 1. How many vehicles have had to pull out because of deep mud\water a HUGE difference!.

Post by **gqpete** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:24 pm

meiamaro
Starting figure and go from there.
Entry is around $2500. I think.
Getting there add another $2-3K-driving towing flying hiring?
Fuel for the event 300ltr

Post by **E49** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:31 pm

meiamaro,
A couple of mates that are competing (in different vehicles) rekon close
to 10Gs for the week is about it.

Post by **tuf355** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:31 pm

dont forget the saftey issues !!!!!!!

Post by **toughnut** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:36 pm

meiamaro wrote:Very interesting coversation...
With all the talk of $$$$, what, without being too personal, would a ballpark figure be to compete in such an event.
I know how longs a piece of string, but an idea would be great.
Yes one day i too could be lucky enough to compete in such an adventure.
Also i've followed this event for years and have noticed the evolution of
the vehicels that compete,do people think that it's going to get to the point
of "cheque book racing". I saw it alot when i was rallying.

So the more info we have the more we understand.

Cheers Ian.

ps, keep the cool pix coming.YES i'm jelous.

If you are talking price of the cars then there would only be one truck under $50 000. If you are talking about just doing the event then $10 000 is pretty average to get there, compete and get home.

Lot of coin to throw away a truck in the water. A lot of pi@##$ off competitors.

Post by **ludacris** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:53 pm

I agree sending the trucks through 6 ft of mudy water is rediculouse. Is this event not hard or expensive enough.

LudaCris

Post by **GQHOON** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:53 pm

Anyone seen the HOON boys???

Post by **meiamaro** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:54 pm

Yes thats a lot of coin, i cant imagine it will get any cheaper,
better start saving for a few years time.

Could sell house,wifes car.......hang on

anyone whant a package deal,...wife,kids, morgage ect.

Ian

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