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Turbo Charging a Suzi
Turbo Charging a Suzi
hey guys/gals,
got a 1996 sierra 1.3 stock engine/car. i want to do some engine modifications. obviously as everyone knows they are as slow as my grandma on a bad day with her hip. so if anyone could enlighten me with some information on how to mod the engine or what i could do, and even possibly the kind of turbo i would need to do that.
cheers.
kyle
got a 1996 sierra 1.3 stock engine/car. i want to do some engine modifications. obviously as everyone knows they are as slow as my grandma on a bad day with her hip. so if anyone could enlighten me with some information on how to mod the engine or what i could do, and even possibly the kind of turbo i would need to do that.
cheers.
kyle
the easiest way of getting more power out of the stock engine is a carby swap.
bolting on a vitara carby is the easiestand gives you about 10 - 20%moreand doesnt require any other mods or accessories.
A weber (32/36) can also be bolted on but to get the best power out of it you also need to get extractors and a finer filter. the weber will need some internal mods to handle angles better offroad but for outright power (from a carby engine) it is the best way.
With more power you will loose economy with a carby. The ultimate best way is to go for a EFI injection setup from a 8v vitara 1.6.
vit carby = easiest
weber+extractors+mods = better
EFI = Best option
bolting on a vitara carby is the easiestand gives you about 10 - 20%moreand doesnt require any other mods or accessories.
A weber (32/36) can also be bolted on but to get the best power out of it you also need to get extractors and a finer filter. the weber will need some internal mods to handle angles better offroad but for outright power (from a carby engine) it is the best way.
With more power you will loose economy with a carby. The ultimate best way is to go for a EFI injection setup from a 8v vitara 1.6.
vit carby = easiest
weber+extractors+mods = better
EFI = Best option
1999 SQ625 Manual Grand Vitara. Lifted, Twin Locked, 31' Extremes, dual Batteries, Winch.
Lots of custom gear as I cant afford the proper stuff.
Lots of custom gear as I cant afford the proper stuff.
Where are you?
CVE Performance is doing a Turbo on LTDHO's (from this board) Vitara.
They are more that capable of doing the EFI or turbo on yours, they are in VIC.
www.cveperformance.com
CVE Performance is doing a Turbo on LTDHO's (from this board) Vitara.
They are more that capable of doing the EFI or turbo on yours, they are in VIC.
www.cveperformance.com
www.CVEPerformance.com
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I think he is using one off a Saab or a volvo I think. Or was that teh IC.
He got a twin turbo setup, and is using 1 turbo.
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/inde ... adid=11077
Thats his buildup.
He got a twin turbo setup, and is using 1 turbo.
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/inde ... adid=11077
Thats his buildup.
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kyledaley wrote:ok sic. thanks dude/s. on to another subject while i got you all ears. suspension!!! what kind of shockies have people used for thier coilies. i have a 1 inch lift in my car and the shocks are streching to the max. need to get some new rears. anyone recommend anything????????
Not being a search nazi, but there is info on it here already.
Layto....
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Very true.CRUSHU wrote:Where are you?
CVE Performance is doing a Turbo on LTDHO's (from this board) Vitara.
They are more that capable of doing the EFI or turbo on yours, they are in VIC.
www.cveperformance.com
The motor has been rebuilt and decomp'ed. Goes better already.
Once it's run in (another 500klms) then the turbo goes on!
LTDHO is my Ford 361rwkw (not for off road)
Suzi Vitara is my new hobby. 30's only and now 30mm higher, awaiting TURBO :D
Suzi Vitara is my new hobby. 30's only and now 30mm higher, awaiting TURBO :D
Hey guys,
My mate runs a turbo 1300 Sierra. First he started with a blowthrough setup whereby he used a weber, as you can pressurise the fuel bowl, and a t2 of an ET pulsar.
The thing wasn't fantastic but it worked, and went better than standard. This has led to the second incarnation in which he has used an EA throttle body injection, using the same weber adapter plate, a really old school microtech(dial style), and a new exhaust manifold. He has recently upgraded to a t25 off a Nissan CA18DET.
I haven't been for a run in it yet but apparently with the slightly larger turbo he says it's runs heaps better. A lot more power. Running 7psi through the standard motor seems fine, and the old setup had been running like this for the last 2-3 years. I realise with the extra volume of air it may be a little different, but we'll see how it goes. A very cost effective way of turboing your Sierra. The car isalso intercooled as well.
If you can get you hands on a cheap ECU, then the rest can be had for a fairly good price. Butif your not mechanicallyminded and don't do much of it yourself, then $1500-$2000 i recon isn't much to outlay for a decent kit done by someone.
Failing that I have a supercharged CA18DE in my Mazda 1000/Sierra and it shits all over my mates sierra. And availability of these motors are plentiful and cheap. We just put one in my mates sierra and the motor/box/ecu/loom was $300. Wiring $250, Fuel tank $50 and we did everything ourselves. Something to think about. But I guess I'm bias being a Datto enthusiast.
My mate runs a turbo 1300 Sierra. First he started with a blowthrough setup whereby he used a weber, as you can pressurise the fuel bowl, and a t2 of an ET pulsar.
The thing wasn't fantastic but it worked, and went better than standard. This has led to the second incarnation in which he has used an EA throttle body injection, using the same weber adapter plate, a really old school microtech(dial style), and a new exhaust manifold. He has recently upgraded to a t25 off a Nissan CA18DET.
I haven't been for a run in it yet but apparently with the slightly larger turbo he says it's runs heaps better. A lot more power. Running 7psi through the standard motor seems fine, and the old setup had been running like this for the last 2-3 years. I realise with the extra volume of air it may be a little different, but we'll see how it goes. A very cost effective way of turboing your Sierra. The car isalso intercooled as well.
If you can get you hands on a cheap ECU, then the rest can be had for a fairly good price. Butif your not mechanicallyminded and don't do much of it yourself, then $1500-$2000 i recon isn't much to outlay for a decent kit done by someone.
Failing that I have a supercharged CA18DE in my Mazda 1000/Sierra and it shits all over my mates sierra. And availability of these motors are plentiful and cheap. We just put one in my mates sierra and the motor/box/ecu/loom was $300. Wiring $250, Fuel tank $50 and we did everything ourselves. Something to think about. But I guess I'm bias being a Datto enthusiast.
How did you get on with the gearbox with the ca18de ? I ended up going with a box from a nissan 4x4 ute , ended up the same length as the original tcase . With the 5sp box out of a silvia the suzuki tcase would have been another 10 in back I think .
Cheers
Chris
Not sure if I should bolt the turbo on it yet , goes ok as is
Cheers
Chris
Not sure if I should bolt the turbo on it yet , goes ok as is
He used the manual S13 silvia 5 speed. What we did was move the transfer back 120mm I think, and being a LWB ute we were able to use the front tailshaft for the back and the back tailshaft for the front. There was very little distance between the rear housing of the G/B and the flange of the T/C so is was basically solid mounted using a rear output yoke from a R31 Pintara, CA20, and welded to the output flange of the T/C. In order for the motor to clear the tunnel the body was lifted 60mm using body blocks and the tunnel massaged a little. We also used the R31 clutch pedal and clutch master cylinder.
ALl in all he's happy with the conversion, but after driving mine he thinks he'll definately be going an auto when time permits.
ALl in all he's happy with the conversion, but after driving mine he thinks he'll definately be going an auto when time permits.
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