V8 5.0L Engine Conversion parts

[H@MMeR]

hello i have a V8 5.0L Engine Conversion and starting to look for parts useing 308 VS 96 to i dont know who is the best one to go with i went to marks web site and total got lost in what i have to get if you can give me some help would be great motor is going into gq lwb 88 diesel use the patrol gear box if you can help please pm or post me Michael

[mav]

are you using the auto with it???

[H@MMeR]

no the auto cpu is ment to be better to config to in a patrol so i have been told anyway !
why that ?

are you using the auto with it???

[Daisy]

no the auto cpu is ment to be better to config to in a patrol so i have been told anyway !
why that ?

are you using the auto with it???

From memory.. the manual ECU is much better to deal with as i think the vs auto is electronic and if you're minus the auto.. the ecu may report a fault??

TOM

[hillbilly]

"Marks" and "Dellow" seem to be the most popular for these type of conversions. The Dellow kit will be a bit cheaper and sits the engine close to the firewall.
There has been a couple of guys recently who have used the Marks kit on this forum, just a matter of waiting for them to answer.
The PCM I was told will be a bit of a shit fight to use with a manual box, but Find a Delco expert and get a quote on a re-map.
He may be able to by-pass the BCM (body control module) at the same time, saving you 400 odd bucks.
Not sure exactly what you will need but this will get you going until someone else chips in.
engine mounts
bellhousing/adapter
BCM
Wiring harness interface kit
Reverse bowl sump
Brackets for accesories P.S Alt. ( or make your own )
Clutch / Flywheel / starter motor ...for manual g.box
Fuel pump
Surge tank
Cat converter
sender adaptors
tail shaft balance


Hope this helps a bit.

[H@MMeR]

hey hillbilly Mate "thats Tops" it give me some where to start

Fuel pump : whats kinda one ?

Clutch / Flywheel / for a patrol or for the v8 i have read that the vs/v8 are better then the patrol one and i dont even know if i can use the patrol one

once again hillbilly thanks
Michael

[MKPatrolGuy]

If it is an auto motor, you will also need a pilot bush/bearing for the crankshaft.

[legsx1]

I did a V8 conversion using Marks adaptor, and found that the bloody thing was out of line. I had to getit machined here in NZ. I understand 3 or 4 others in our club who have the same conversion had the same problem with Marks adaptors. When I emailed Marks about it - they did not want to hnow about it or even help me. It was all all my costs.

Have fun, you will probably spend about 2 months getting it up and running.

With the Marks kit, you get a centre drive spigot which fits over the Nissan gearbox end and into the chevy flywheel end. It has splines for the V8 clutch plate, which will need to use, however if you want to use your Nissan pressure plate and bearing, you will have to get the flywheel drilled and taped for the Nissan Pressure plate. I did as my Nissan pressure plate was a heavy duty one and near new.

Gas cut the Nissan engine mounts off the chassis rails and weld on new ones to suit your engine

You will need to find a good auto sparkie

[H@MMeR]

wow thanks for the tips when you cut the Nissan engine mounts off the chassis did you just make a plate to sute the new motor or move the nissan ones

I did a V8 conversion using Marks adaptor, and found that the bloody thing was out of line. I had to getit machined here in NZ. I understand 3 or 4 others in our club who have the same conversion had the same problem with Marks adaptors. When I emailed Marks about it - they did not want to hnow about it or even help me. It was all all my costs.

Have fun, you will probably spend about 2 months getting it up and running.

With the Marks kit, you get a centre drive spigot which fits over the Nissan gearbox end and into the chevy flywheel end. It has splines for the V8 clutch plate, which will need to use, however if you want to use your Nissan pressure plate and bearing, you will have to get the flywheel drilled and taped for the Nissan Pressure plate. I did as my Nissan pressure plate was a heavy duty one and near new.

Gas cut the Nissan engine mounts off the chassis rails and weld on new ones to suit your engine

You will need to find a good auto sparkie

[hillbilly]

Cut the nissan mounts off and toss them. Weld new ones on.
Usually they will come with the engine mount kit that you buy.
If you are mating the gm motor to the nissan manual box, you
will need a gm flywheel and 10" clutcch. Your starter motor
will have to change to a gm manual type also, as yours is suited to an
auto.
Spigot bearings will also come with which ever kit you purchase.
Fuel pump will prob. have to be an in line high pressure unit ( bosch )
plus a lift pump to the swirl/surge pot.

[H@MMeR]

cool thanks for your help

Cut the nissan mounts off and toss them. Weld new ones on.
Usually they will come with the engine mount kit that you buy.
If you are mating the gm motor to the nissan manual box, you
will need a gm flywheel and 10" clutcch. Your starter motor
will have to change to a gm manual type also, as yours is suited to an
auto.
Spigot bearings will also come with which ever kit you purchase.
Fuel pump will prob. have to be an in line high pressure unit ( bosch )
plus a lift pump to the swirl/surge pot.

[SLOGQ]

I got a VR engine out of a SS for mine, to save money and hassels i grabbed a VP loom and computer ( no body control BS ). If you did this it will save you about $400. I finshed the thing last nite and WOW!

The only thing that was a bit of a pain was the exhuast manifolds. I used EFI extractors to suit a VK, only because i had them. They had to be cut up a fair bit to work properly. I would recommend some research on some other manifods. One exhuast guy said HSV factory headers are a better option.

I used a marks kit for the conversion, went together well enough for me. The only thing i didnt like was that they use the same bellhousing adaptor for a chev and a holden motor, which means there are 2 lumps in the adaptor for the starter, one on either side. But with a holden motor the passenger is used. The drivers side is right where most extractors want to sit. Im not sure if dellow, CRS ect. do the same. I only used the bellhousing kit, engine mount kit and tacho interface. The speedo interface ill sort out later. I also made up a mount for the P/S pump, its on the drivers side above the Air Con. Its a pump i made up out of a V6 commodore pump and the resivoir of the orignal motor.

The wiring is easy, i had it done in a nite. Had a small problem with the alternator back feeding through the loom and keeping the car running with the key off, but fixed that with a diode and a relay.

Im using a 3 core diesel raidator with VT V8 thermos and a temp switch, will have to see how they go on the beach on the weekend but should be ok i think.

Hurry up and get it in mate, i love mine now

[H@MMeR]

heheh i ordered a shit load of part from monster4x4.com.au ( wich sells marks stuff ) i'm getting more pumped about getting the hmmmmmm v8 and giving it a go

is yours a auto or manul box ( patrol ) as i have got a auto motor and have to find a flywheel for it cuz i want to stay with a manul box and i dont know where to get one yet if you can help would be great
Michael

I got a VR engine out of a SS for mine, to save money and hassels i grabbed a VP loom and computer ( no body control BS ). If you did this it will save you about $400. I finshed the thing last nite and WOW!

The only thing that was a bit of a pain was the exhuast manifolds. I used EFI extractors to suit a VK, only because i had them. They had to be cut up a fair bit to work properly. I would recommend some research on some other manifods. One exhuast guy said HSV factory headers are a better option.

I used a marks kit for the conversion, went together well enough for me. The only thing i didnt like was that they use the same bellhousing adaptor for a chev and a holden motor, which means there are 2 lumps in the adaptor for the starter, one on either side. But with a holden motor the passenger is used. The drivers side is right where most extractors want to sit. Im not sure if dellow, CRS ect. do the same. I only used the bellhousing kit, engine mount kit and tacho interface. The speedo interface ill sort out later. I also made up a mount for the P/S pump, its on the drivers side above the Air Con. Its a pump i made up out of a V6 commodore pump and the resivoir of the orignal motor.

The wiring is easy, i had it done in a nite. Had a small problem with the alternator back feeding through the loom and keeping the car running with the key off, but fixed that with a diode and a relay.

Im using a 3 core diesel raidator with VT V8 thermos and a temp switch, will have to see how they go on the beach on the weekend but should be ok i think.

Hurry up and get it in mate, i love mine now

[SLOGQ]

Mines a manual, i had an old 308 flywheel lying around so i just used that. You can use any holden V8 flywheel, just make sure you get a clutch to suit. I also have a auto starter and it works fine with that flywheel.

Just try a wrecker for the flywheel, barsby holden parts in Maryborough would have to have one.

[H@MMeR]

sweet i called barsby holden parts and spoke to pete there. Got c/card out now all parts are on there way now he was ever help full

Mines a manual, i had an old 308 flywheel lying around so i just used that. You can use any holden V8 flywheel, just make sure you get a clutch to suit. I also have a auto starter and it works fine with that flywheel.

Just try a wrecker for the flywheel, barsby holden parts in Maryborough would have to have one.

[ludacris]

Apparently extractors from a certain model commodore for one side and extractors from another model commodore for the other side of the motor work well or maybe it is the opposite side around. HeHeHe

LudaCris

[Vulcanised]

the whole kit from Marks.... including the tacho adaptor will set you back about 3 grand. That includes about $450 for the fuel kit (pump, lift pump, surge tank etc) I think you said you are swapping a diesel, the radiator will be fine... bit of bootyfab on the bottom hose though.... i can take a picture of mine. Will save you 500 bux buying a commodore one. You can use the commodore power steering pump, it's a bit close to the steering box, but a A1170 fan belt gives you ewnough adjustment, and lifts the pump over the steering box. You will however have to modify the hoses. It might ber better to adapt the Nissan one... the Commodore p/steer pumps are prone to leaking (as mine is)

[mav]

for your wiring loom needs see matt turnbull at http://injectedholdens.com/
he also does wiring looms for gen3 chevs

hello i have a V8 5.0L Engine Conversion and starting to look for parts useing 308 VS 96 to i dont know who is the best one to go with i went to marks web site and total got lost in what i have to get if you can give me some help would be great motor is going into gq lwb 88 diesel use the patrol gear box if you can help please pm or post me Michael

[Vulcanised]

"Marks" and "Dellow" seem to be the most popular for these type of conversions. The Dellow kit will be a bit cheaper and sits the engine close to the firewall.
There has been a couple of guys recently who have used the Marks kit on this forum, just a matter of waiting for them to answer.
The PCM I was told will be a bit of a shit fight to use with a manual box, but Find a Delco expert and get a quote on a re-map.
He may be able to by-pass the BCM (body control module) at the same time, saving you 400 odd bucks.
Not sure exactly what you will need but this will get you going until someone else chips in.
engine mounts
bellhousing/adapter
BCM
Wiring harness interface kit
Reverse bowl sump
Brackets for accesories P.S Alt. ( or make your own )
Clutch / Flywheel / starter motor ...for manual g.box
Fuel pump
Surge tank
Cat converter
sender adaptors
tail shaft balance


Hope this helps a bit.

Dellow only make part of what you need... i was originally going to buy the Dellow kit.... turned out i was far better off getting the Marks kit.... If you get the dellow stuff, you will still end up buying the rest from marks, or getting it made up, which could ultimately cost more.

[Tiny]

"Marks" and "Dellow" seem to be the most popular for these type of conversions. The Dellow kit will be a bit cheaper and sits the engine close to the firewall.
There has been a couple of guys recently who have used the Marks kit on this forum, just a matter of waiting for them to answer.
The PCM I was told will be a bit of a shit fight to use with a manual box, but Find a Delco expert and get a quote on a re-map.
He may be able to by-pass the BCM (body control module) at the same time, saving you 400 odd bucks.
Not sure exactly what you will need but this will get you going until someone else chips in.
engine mounts
bellhousing/adapter
BCM
Wiring harness interface kit
Reverse bowl sump
Brackets for accesories P.S Alt. ( or make your own )
Clutch / Flywheel / starter motor ...for manual g.box
Fuel pump
Surge tank
Cat converter
sender adaptors
tail shaft balance


Hope this helps a bit.

Dellow only make part of what you need... i was originally going to buy the Dellow kit.... turned out i was far better off getting the Marks kit.... If you get the dellow stuff, you will still end up buying the rest from marks, or getting it made up, which could ultimately cost more.

when we went though this I got on to dellow for Tony and they assured be it was everything to bolt up and spent ages playing phone tage to sort out wich auto variation it was in Tony's GQ then when they had finnished the adaptor they rang up asking what we were doing with the torqu converter, the dellows required a heap of work done on it the cheapest splitting the case and adapting half a t700 from memory, any way after that we chased down the marks kit that uses a bolss adaptor, basically much easier and no extrnal work needs to be done although they tend to be very hard to deal with and any problems are your problem not theres

as for the marks kits not aligning, I have alse had people tell me they have had problems with dellows as well, picked up a troopy with a 454 for a mate and the bloke is right into ski racing and muscle cars, reckons the only kit he would buy is the marks ones as him and his mates had heaps of issues with the dellows ones, although they do tend to be easier to get hold of and happier to help

[H@MMeR]

here is a list of part that i have paid for and waiting to turn up !

parts i got from marks,barsby,repco,mates

"Marks"
1 x mfk605ht (NEW)
1 x mfk625h/ck (NEW)
1 x mck117 (NEW)
1 x mfk1165 (NEW)
1 x mfk630nf (NEW)
1 x mfk690vs/t (NEW)
1 x mcm6vs (NEW)

"Barsby"
1 x VN v8 flywheel (Reconditioned)
1 x ball/crank (NEW)
1 x water pump (NEW)
10 x welsh plues (NEW)
2 x tapit cover gaskets (NEW)
1 x water pump pulley (USED)

"Repco"
1 x Rotor distributor cared (NEW)
1 x Front Main crank oil seal (NEW)


"MATES"
1 x Torana 253 rear sump
1 x Torana 253 oil pickup


I will add more to the list as time gose on or if anyone can see think of a part that i have not got
i guess there willl be more to come :(
I have not got a FUEL PUMP yet if some can help with that would be great

thats it for now

[SLOGQ]

What about a sump........ you wil need a HQ-WB sump, oil pickup,
dipstick and dipstick tube. Try barsby agian mabye?

I used a VR V8 intank fuel pump, but my GQ had a RB30 to start with and had a low pressure pump in the tank already. I just swaped it for a high pressure pump and upgraded all the fuel line to high pressure line.

[ludacris]

I have a holden v6 jakaroo fuel pump and tank and have had no problems at all running a EFI 302. Just be care full where you run the fuel lines as you now have extractors on both sides now.

LudaCris

[H@MMeR]

slogq thanks what is a HQ -WB ??? i know hq but what dose wb = ?

What about a sump........ you wil need a HQ-WB sump, oil pickup,
dipstick and dipstick tube. Try barsby agian mabye?

I used a VR V8 intank fuel pump, but my GQ had a RB30 to start with and had a low pressure pump in the tank already. I just swaped it for a high pressure pump and upgraded all the fuel line to high pressure line.

[Screwy]

Sumps from any of the COMMODORE motors all are forward sumps.... and provide far less diff clearance for an offroad used vehicle.

I have just put a commodore 5 litre in another of my patrols and i used the front sump... but its a tow rig so i dont have to worry about the diff hitting it.

What you need is a rear sump, and the oil pickup and you can use the same dipstick if you want. They are in the early HOLDEN V8s.... Red motors and Blue motors.... HJ holden, HG Holden, WB holden.....
as soon as you go to the VB commore and onwards they are all front sumps... which you can use... but you will have front diff clearance issues.

With regards to parts.... if your intending on using the Nissan Manuel. unless you buy a kit that comes with clutch..... you can run a Holden V8 pressure plate and Nissan patrol Clutch plate to match the gearbox spline, and het a spigot bush to suit your application.

being an injected motor.... get the fuel pump that suits the V8 in that model car. I.E go to repco and get a fuel pump for a 5 litre VS commodore for example.

fans.... for cooling, if you run clutch fan, make sure you fully cowl it and i mean FULLY cowl it, and if your using a nissan radiator this is even more important.
I personally use Twin AU falcon thermo fans, as they fit the MQ radiator perfectly fully cowled and supply absolutely awsome cooling characteristics....

any other questions... just ask

Screwy

[H@MMeR]

hello Screwy_ScrewBall thanks for the info it is great now i found a sump from a mate i dont if it will work it is a from a tarana he told me it is a 253 as i'm not a holden man is this right ? and will it work ? if you can help would be great or anyone can thats know about it

Sumps from any of the COMMODORE motors all are forward sumps.... and provide far less diff clearance for an offroad used vehicle.

I have just put a commodore 5 litre in another of my patrols and i used the front sump... but its a tow rig so i dont have to worry about the diff hitting it.

What you need is a rear sump, and the oil pickup and you can use the same dipstick if you want. They are in the early HOLDEN V8s.... Red motors and Blue motors.... HJ holden, HG Holden, WB holden.....
as soon as you go to the VB commore and onwards they are all front sumps... which you can use... but you will have front diff clearance issues.

With regards to parts.... if your intending on using the Nissan Manuel. unless you buy a kit that comes with clutch..... you can run a Holden V8 pressure plate and Nissan patrol Clutch plate to match the gearbox spline, and het a spigot bush to suit your application.

being an injected motor.... get the fuel pump that suits the V8 in that model car. I.E go to repco and get a fuel pump for a 5 litre VS commodore for example.

fans.... for cooling, if you run clutch fan, make sure you fully cowl it and i mean FULLY cowl it, and if your using a nissan radiator this is even more important.
I personally use Twin AU falcon thermo fans, as they fit the MQ radiator perfectly fully cowled and supply absolutely awsome cooling characteristics....

any other questions... just ask

Screwy

[Screwy]

hello Screwy_ScrewBall thanks for the info it is great now i found a sump from a mate i dont if it will work it is a from a tarana he told me it is a 253 as i'm not a holden man is this right ? and will it work ? if you can help would be great or anyone can thats know about it

Sumps from any of the COMMODORE motors all are forward sumps.... and provide far less diff clearance for an offroad used vehicle.

I have just put a commodore 5 litre in another of my patrols and i used the front sump... but its a tow rig so i dont have to worry about the diff hitting it.

What you need is a rear sump, and the oil pickup and you can use the same dipstick if you want. They are in the early HOLDEN V8s.... Red motors and Blue motors.... HJ holden, HG Holden, WB holden.....
as soon as you go to the VB commore and onwards they are all front sumps... which you can use... but you will have front diff clearance issues.

With regards to parts.... if your intending on using the Nissan Manuel. unless you buy a kit that comes with clutch..... you can run a Holden V8 pressure plate and Nissan patrol Clutch plate to match the gearbox spline, and het a spigot bush to suit your application.

being an injected motor.... get the fuel pump that suits the V8 in that model car. I.E go to repco and get a fuel pump for a 5 litre VS commodore for example.

fans.... for cooling, if you run clutch fan, make sure you fully cowl it and i mean FULLY cowl it, and if your using a nissan radiator this is even more important.
I personally use Twin AU falcon thermo fans, as they fit the MQ radiator perfectly fully cowled and supply absolutely awsome cooling characteristics....

any other questions... just ask

yep if its torana 253 it will fit. as long as its a rear sump it will fit. and as long as you got the oil pickup with it.

honestly though... there is room for the front sump as well, just depends on how high you end up mounting the motor. but you definatly have more clearance for a rear sump... any lifted rig wont effect it either way.

screwy

Screwy

[ludacris]

I am not sure why but for some reason Norm walters seems to be burning his clutches out. So I would recomend doing some research on what is the best avenue to take for clutch setup champ.

LudaCris

[H@MMeR]

do you know what kinda clutche he is useing as i have got just a nom... 10 " one from marks

I am not sure why but for some reason Norm walters seems to be burning his clutches out. So I would recomend doing some research on what is the best avenue to take for clutch setup champ.

LudaCris

[Screwy]

do you know what kinda clutche he is useing as i have got just a nom... 10 " one from marks

I am not sure why but for some reason Norm walters seems to be burning his clutches out. So I would recomend doing some research on what is the best avenue to take for clutch setup champ.

LudaCris

the one in the marks kit will be fine.