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Front end Drop kit for Rodeo

Tech talk for GMH/Isuzu and Great Wall owners

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Front end Drop kit for Rodeo

Post by sudso »

Is there a drop kit avalaible that drops the front end a couple of inches from the chassis?
I'm looking at modifying the control arms to give 4" more wheel travel over standard (2" up & 2" down) so need more guard clearance on the upstroke with 33's on.

I'll play around with some old ones 1st to see what I can do.
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Post by Utemad »

I know there is a diff drop kit available. This just lowers the diff so your CVs don't chew out when lifted.
I don't know of anything that will give you more wheel travel than standard though (except low profile bump stops of course).
I would think even the drop control arms don't give you any more distance between your bump stops.

I'm sure you have this info already. Just thinking out loud :)
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Post by sudso »

Yeah I think Calmini have a front end drop kit for when you do a SOA in the rear, I think their control arms give an inch or two more wheel travel too.
I just want to see if I can achieve 4" by modifying some old standard ones then work on the rest of the geometry after.
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Post by Timbo(Rodeo) »

There is a thailand company that do 5" for Isuzu. Moungmai Ruamchang 4x4.
http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/
In particular
Here: http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/page/00613.html
and here: http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/page/00614.html

I have put a little creative thought into how you could copy something liek this locally. First you would need a very good engineering company to sit down with, take measurements.
Get a second set of lower control arms from a wreckers, or maybe even a complete duplicate of lower suspension pieces, maybe even 2 sets of lower arms. So you can return it to stock at a later date.

Then chop one set of the lower arms in half (like a chicken wishbone when you snap it) and leave the rear half mounted in the original position. Then build brackets as in the pics above, to mount the full lower arms downwards. Then have the twin double ended ball joints between lower and middle (original position) control arms. Why do all this you ask? because the isuzu have the torsion bars acting on lower arms not uppper as in a Toyota. so you can just move them down.

However... they have done something like this on a Ford as well and have built a new cross member to move the rear of the torsions down as well. Could be another option. Seen here: http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/page/01248.html

I like this idea after looking at it again. You would lose some ramp over clearance though...
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Post by Tiny »

Hi,

We dont have tghe onl model rodeo, but we do the RA which gives a total of approx 5" lift by drooping the front crossmembvers and the torsion bar rossmember. if you had the time and inclination the old model could be done, the benifit of a dropp crossmember kit is it keeps the drivline angle good so the good old CV problem is not as bad.

Will see if I can dig up a few pics of the RA done...they fit 35s on them and the tritons :twisted:
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Post by sudso »

Timbo(Rodeo) wrote:There is a thailand company that do 5" for Isuzu. Moungmai Ruamchang 4x4.
http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/
In particular
Here: http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/page/00613.html
and here: http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/page/00614.html

I have put a little creative thought into how you could copy something liek this locally. First you would need a very good engineering company to sit down with, take measurements.
Get a second set of lower control arms from a wreckers, or maybe even a complete duplicate of lower suspension pieces, maybe even 2 sets of lower arms. So you can return it to stock at a later date.

Then chop one set of the lower arms in half (like a chicken wishbone when you snap it) and leave the rear half mounted in the original position. Then build brackets as in the pics above, to mount the full lower arms downwards. Then have the twin double ended ball joints between lower and middle (original position) control arms. Why do all this you ask? because the isuzu have the torsion bars acting on lower arms not uppper as in a Toyota. so you can just move them down.

However... they have done something like this on a Ford as well and have built a new cross member to move the rear of the torsions down as well. Could be another option. Seen here: http://www.4x4.in.th/mr/page/01248.html

I like this idea after looking at it again. You would lose some ramp over clearance though...
Yeah I thought that by increasing the distance between the top and lower control arm between the ball joints you will get more wheel travel i.e modding the lower one, but then the angle of the cv is too much so you need to drop the whole front diff accordingly. I reckon the R9's are the best looking of the Rodeo's and would look cool and be very capable with the extra articulation and big lift/tyres etc.
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Post by dani4JB1T »

what about this

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Isuzu drop diff bracket. Designed to allow for a 1.5" drop in the diff to help lessen the angle on the CV's. This helps extend the life of the CV's on lifted Isuzu trucks. Core deposit or exchange required for this item. Crossmember Drop brackets and bolts not included. Estimated completion time of 2-3 weeks.

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This is an ISUZU modified cross member to accomodate the dropped differential created by the installation of the DOR Drop-Diff brackets.

http://www.darlington-offroad.com/categ ... Ds=1322069
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Post by sudso »

Hi Dani, thanks for that.
Wonder if they available in Oz?

You guys have heaps more stuff for Isuzu's than here, you lucky bastards :cry: :D

And ARB stuff is half the price of Oz prices too?

WTF is going on? Most ARB is made here! :?
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Post by dani4JB1T »

Hi Dave...well....we dont have any aftermarket for Isuzu here. But we`re closer to the states than you, so shipping it isn`t so expensive.

Rare thing about ARB prices. I dont understand it too.

I think these two darlington items plus a calmini 3" kit should work fine for getting real raised rodeo. I dont like body lifts.

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