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Cutting brakes without rear disconnect

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Cutting brakes without rear disconnect

Post by antt »

just wondering if the above actually works any good? ie. disconnecting rear airlocker, locking one side, and driving the other 3 wheels.

my pos has a pretty crap turnin circle, so lookin at ways to reduce it ;)
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Post by MissDrew »

Will turn a bit tighter but not as much as if you have re disco.
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Post by pongo »

tractors work fine using this set up so i cant see why it wont work. I was going to do this but i'll be runing a lsd or welded so it wont help me

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Re: Cutting brakes without rear disconnect

Post by -Mandy- »

antt wrote:just wondering if the above actually works any good? ie. disconnecting rear airlocker, locking one side, and driving the other 3 wheels.

my pos has a pretty crap turnin circle, so lookin at ways to reduce it ;)
Havent you got one of those you beaut' CIG lockers in the rear of the vit?? :?

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Post by antt »

they have these amazing thing called bolts. ya might of seen em before on that green thing of yours ;) ....what ya do is, get a spanner, undo them, and ya can take ya diff centre out.....amazin hey ;)

then, if ya do the same to the front, you can swap them over, and re-tighten those bolts i was talkin bout earlier, or even swap the gears inside the diff, onto the airlocker....but thats more bolts ya have to undo

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Post by -Mandy- »

antt wrote:they have these amazing thing called bolts. ya might of seen em before on that green thing of yours ;) ....what ya do is, get a spanner, undo them, and ya can take ya diff centre out.....amazin hey ;)

then, if ya do the same to the front, you can swap them over, and re-tighten those bolts i was talkin bout earlier, or even swap the gears inside the diff, onto the airlocker....but thats more bolts ya have to undo

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riiiiiight..i getcha now!!

Soo...then you are welded in the front..hmmm...and that reduces your dinosaur turning circle how again?? :finger:
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Post by antt »

-Mandy- wrote:
antt wrote:they have these amazing thing called bolts. ya might of seen em before on that green thing of yours ;) ....what ya do is, get a spanner, undo them, and ya can take ya diff centre out.....amazin hey ;)

then, if ya do the same to the front, you can swap them over, and re-tighten those bolts i was talkin bout earlier, or even swap the gears inside the diff, onto the airlocker....but thats more bolts ya have to undo

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riiiiiight..i getcha now!!

Soo...then you are welded in the front..hmmm...and that reduces your dinosaur turning circle how again?? :finger:
thats why i'm askin the question :finger:
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Post by beebee »

I found very little difference with having rear cutting brakes. I wouldn't bother :roll:
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Post by Surfection »

Junior did one very impressive turn on the weekend in his mog diffed zook, down hill with loose $hit everywhere it still turned quite sharp, definatly wouldn't have made the turn without braking the inside rear.
I also find it very handy for reversing, rather than digging the front & risking the R&P I lock up the inside rear with the locker off and it turns quite a bit sharper.
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Post by redzook »

Surfection wrote:Junior did one very impressive turn on the weekend in his mog diffed zook, down hill with loose $hit everywhere it still turned quite sharp, definatly wouldn't have made the turn without braking the inside rear.
I also find it very handy for reversing, rather than digging the front & risking the R&P I lock up the inside rear with the locker off and it turns quite a bit sharper.
i was right becide you when juniour done it and we were both quite shocked how sharp it turned

i also seen you using it on b2 and it also worked quite well then

maybe beebee dont like it because he is so long?
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Post by antt »

so might be worth a shot i guess. wont work for turnin uphill though...but the cuttin brakes themselves are fark all anyway to buy, so i'll prob give it a go
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Post by beebee »

redzook wrote:
Surfection wrote:Junior did one very impressive turn on the weekend in his mog diffed zook, down hill with loose $hit everywhere it still turned quite sharp, definatly wouldn't have made the turn without braking the inside rear.
I also find it very handy for reversing, rather than digging the front & risking the R&P I lock up the inside rear with the locker off and it turns quite a bit sharper.
i was right becide you when juniour done it and we were both quite shocked how sharp it turned

i also seen you using it on b2 and it also worked quite well then

maybe beebee dont like it because he is so long?
It's still difficult to turn a bus regardless of how many levers you have :roll:
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Post by Wendle »

mine works brilliantly sometimes, and sometimes doesn't work any better than no brakes at all. doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it either.
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Post by Roctoy »

beebee wrote:
redzook wrote:
Surfection wrote:Junior did one very impressive turn on the weekend in his mog diffed zook, down hill with loose $hit everywhere it still turned quite sharp, definatly wouldn't have made the turn without braking the inside rear.
I also find it very handy for reversing, rather than digging the front & risking the R&P I lock up the inside rear with the locker off and it turns quite a bit sharper.
i was right becide you when juniour done it and we were both quite shocked how sharp it turned

i also seen you using it on b2 and it also worked quite well then

maybe beebee dont like it because he is so long?
It's still difficult to turn a bus regardless of how many levers you have :roll:
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Post by Micka »

Roctoy Designfab wrote:
beebee wrote:
redzook wrote:
Surfection wrote:Junior did one very impressive turn on the weekend in his mog diffed zook, down hill with loose $hit everywhere it still turned quite sharp, definatly wouldn't have made the turn without braking the inside rear.
I also find it very handy for reversing, rather than digging the front & risking the R&P I lock up the inside rear with the locker off and it turns quite a bit sharper.
i was right becide you when juniour done it and we were both quite shocked how sharp it turned

i also seen you using it on b2 and it also worked quite well then

maybe beebee dont like it because he is so long?
It's still difficult to turn a bus regardless of how many levers you have :roll:
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Post by hypo »

ill b setting this up on my junk as i plan to do re-disco eventually, but in the mean time ill b having a go anyways, if u try it antt post up and let us know
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Post by antt »

no probs ben, will prob order em this week from pp
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Post by ljxtreem »

Im doing mine this week too, with no Dico :armsup:

well see :armsup:

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Post by hypo »

ljxtreem wrote:Im doing mine this week too, with no Dico :armsup:

well see :armsup:

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Post by hypo »

antt wrote:no probs ben, will prob order em this week from pp
how much ? let me know i may b interested in getting mine now also
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Post by ljxtreem »

hypozook wrote:
ljxtreem wrote:Im doing mine this week too, with no Dico :armsup:

well see :armsup:

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sick bags a drive of it at oz rock, rememebr u said i could :finger:
Ok :twisted:

I gotta see this, I strugle to fit in it, your about 3 foot taller than me :rofl: :rofl:

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Post by antt »

hypozook wrote:
antt wrote:no probs ben, will prob order em this week from pp
how much ? let me know i may b interested in getting mine now also
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Post by Roctoy »

i'm putting mine in this weekend Antt, without rear dis, just won't be able to front dig though.

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Post by antt »

let us know how it goes chris ;)

edit- coupla people have asked where the $US119 figure came from. go here-> http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/pro ... =88&page=1

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Post by mickyd555 »

antt wrote:let us know how it goes chris ;)

edit- coupla people have asked where the $US119 figure came from. go here-> http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/pro ... =88&page=1

have ordered off these guys 3 times now. last time it took only 1 week to arrive
i may be asking a silly question here but ill ask it anyway, is the $119.00 just for the levers or does it come with cables aswell??
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Post by Daisy »

mickyd555 wrote:
antt wrote:let us know how it goes chris ;)

edit- coupla people have asked where the $US119 figure came from. go here-> http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/pro ... =88&page=1

have ordered off these guys 3 times now. last time it took only 1 week to arrive
i may be asking a silly question here but ill ask it anyway, is the $119.00 just for the levers or does it come with cables aswell??
just for the levers.. and they arent cable operated.. they run a brake line 'in' from the master cylinder.. and 'out' which goes to the brake of choice either both rears.. or left and right...

Obviously you'll have to buy brake lines and a kit to cut and fit them

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Post by mickyd555 »

Thanks TOM, i will have to look into it before i spend my hard earned. I have the handbrake on the rear diff (diff is from GU 4.8), they are drum brakes as part of the disc setup (if that makes sense). they are cable actuated, can this be changed easily to operate on hydrolic and would that then inturn degrade the braking ability of the vehicle (master cylinder upgrade??)
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Post by Daisy »

mickyd555 wrote:Thanks TOM, i will have to look into it before i spend my hard earned. I have the handbrake on the rear diff (diff is from GU 4.8), they are drum brakes as part of the disc setup (if that makes sense). they are cable actuated, can this be changed easily to operate on hydrolic and would that then inturn degrade the braking ability of the vehicle (master cylinder upgrade??)
The cutting brake levers dont rely on using the handbrake at all.. they rely on using the existing brake lines to the rear callipers

hope that makes sense...
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Post by mickyd555 »

yep, i understand it now..........thanks tom
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