Klippan Seatbelts

Post by **Eff** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:50 pm

I was just wondering if anyone had fitted these retractable seat belts to a sierra. Mine is an 86 swb and has the standard non-retrac belts on it. Ive looked at the klippan kits and it doesnt look like it will properly fit (even with the hardware kit they say to also purchase). If you guys have any pics or tips on the matter that would be great.

Eff

Post by **christover1** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:00 am

Retractable seat belts, though good on road, can lock up in off road situations, making them very hard to put on, for example if parked on a slope.

Late model Sierra retractable belts should bolt straight in. They go in place of the 2 plates screwed to side near the seats at floor level.
My mate fitted them to his 85 model

Is the hardware kit universal, or just for a Sierra?
May be ok if it is to suit, but I know nothing of the klippans, sorry.

christover

Post by **Eff** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:10 am

The hardware kit is universal.......i dont think i have 2 plates on mine. I'll have to check that out again. Worse comes to worse i'll just have to drill me some holes (which i rather not do). I'll see how i go if all is well i'll slap some pics up.

Thanks again
Eff

Post by **christover1** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:27 am

Eff wrote:The hardware kit is universal.......i dont think i have 2 plates on mine. I'll have to check that out again. Worse comes to worse i'll just have to drill me some holes (which i rather not do). I'll see how i go if all is well i'll slap some pics up.

Thanks again
Eff

To be safe (and legal) seat belts have to be anchored to a point designed not to pull through, ie a strong point.
So be careful how you fit them, or in an accident they could be useless.

check out the original points, see how they are constructed, that will help you out.

christover

Post by **nicbeer** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:29 am

Some of the zooks did not have the removable plates in the B pillar. I know my 11/84 drover does not.

I have seen some of the aftermarket ones that use a std mounting and mount on the outside.

Stock non retrac ones are good but are a pain when they keep getting in the way of the door closing.

Post by **Eff** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:39 pm

I have no plates on mine on further inspection, just some holes with rubber plugs in them. (might be handy)
The problem i always have friends/family in my car so the seat belts always seem to be too tight or loose when you want to use them plus a bit of a hasssle when people want to get out of the back with the top on.

Looks like the zuk has a date with the drill yet again

Eff

Post by **christover1** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:01 pm

Sorry about the bum steer.
Mine has plates and its an 83.
My mates is an 85.
Maybe its only soft tops or LWB's or ?
Car makers like making things tougher

Drilling, grinding, bashing is all good anyway

Upon further thought, only the normal belt points are under great stress, and you will re use them.
The stock mounting for the reel is only 4 small screws into 1 layer of the metal.

christover

Post by **Eff** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:36 pm

Maybe I should stop kidding myself and buy a racing harness.......would be better over the bumps esp on the highway

Post by **christover1** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:44 pm

Eff wrote:Maybe I should stop kidding myself and buy a racing harness.......would be better over the bumps esp on the highway

That would be better for me, bumps make my head hit the roof on odd occassions...showing how good stock seat belts are

Post by **smiley_smoke** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:34 pm

i may be wrong or it may just be a WA thing but arent racing harnesses illegal in an roadcar?

anyone know the ins and outs?

Post by **nicbeer** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:01 pm

Legal to have them but not use them on road as far as i believe. You also have to have the orig belts also.

Nic

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:55 pm

There are legal racing harnesses. They must have a normal seatbelt buckle arrangement to secure them.

However, racing harnesses are a TOTAL PITA in a recreational 4wd. to be effective, they have to be plenty tight and this will prevent you from leaning forward to get acceptable visibility in technical terrain.

For competition use, they are fine, but you really do need a retractable belt for a regular car.

I have never seen a sierra without the provision for inertia reel belts. This includes Drovers, 1 litres, LWB/SWB the lot.

Greg's 660 sierra has an 85 drover soft top tub on it and it took inertia belts fine- bolted in.

Below the B pillar there is a panel about 200mm X 125mm with four screws retaining it. This is where the stock inertia reel unit bolts in.

IF the car came with fixed belts, owners often install 6" speakers in the inertia reel panels, and this tend to screw them up a bit.

I wouldn't do anything other than put stock sierra inertia belts in it.

Steve.

Post by **smiley_smoke** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:48 pm

well said Steve. after pricing replacement retractable seatbelts from one stop auto in perth (80 bucks) i may just look at reusing the old ones.

Post by **Eff** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:46 pm

That will prob explain it.....My sierra has had speakers in those panels from day one. Still doesnt explain why I cant find the other mount where the seat belt bolts to the side of the seat

Post by **smiley_smoke** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:55 pm

seatbelt bolts to the side of the seat?
you mean where the clasp locks in? nothing actually attaches to the seat to my knowledge.. maybe i misunderstood your comment.. hmm

Post by **Pinball** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:14 pm

Just been through this to replace passenger side belt...

http://www.pointnshoot.org/modules.php? ... =0&thold=0

short version, Klippan only do a universal and it doesn't fit well at all... only alternative is stock item, and as far as i could determine you can't rat them from another model either (eg alto, swift etc.)

Spock

Post by **just cruizin'** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:26 pm

Most wrecker I've found wouldn't sell second hand belts for safety reasons, not sure whether it's illegal or not.

Post by **Eff** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:18 am

Yeah I thought I would have to make something up.
When I get the time I might give it a go.......and try to mount it a different way so I can still have the speakers in those side panels.

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