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1.3 wide track gear ratio's

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1.3 wide track gear ratio's

Post by DR Frankenstine »

Whats the best way to get the gear ratio's right for a 1994 sierra running 32" mongrels? (doesn't want to change the std motor).
Should we Lower the diff ratio's or change transfer case (which I think won't change the highway running) I'm advising to change diff ratio's.
Whats interchangeable/ what do different models run?

Thanks in advance
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Where is the option for both?
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Post by redzook »

series 3 transfer gears will be perfect
or series 4
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Re: 1.3 wide track gear ratio's

Post by ausyota »

DR Frankenstine wrote: change transfer case (which I think won't change the highway running)
Transfer gears in a zook will change hi range as well as low.
look here.
http://www.trailtough.com/transfercase_driveshaft.htm
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Post by lay80n »

Depending on what he wants it for, prob S3 or S4 transfer gears, or Calmini 5.14, or 6.5 trail tough gears. I have 32' tsl/sx with 5.14 and its pretty good to use.

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Post by ausyota »

I have 4.9s with 30" and its sweet. And I can easilly go up to 31" next tyre change.
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Post by joeblow »

5.1 diff centres will suit 31-33 inch tyres and far more reliable than transfer gears.
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Post by ronoor »

Where do you buy these 5.1 diff centres ? and how much $ ? cheers ron
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Post by Tim D »

joeblow wrote:5.1 diff centres will suit 31-33 inch tyres and far more reliable than transfer gears.
I have not heard of breakages with calmini transfer gears, and i have been told lower ratio diff gears are weaker than higher ratio diff geras. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Post by cutzook »

correct. i went through 3 sets of rear crown wheel and pinions with my old 5.12s. it is because they are trying to put more littler teeth on the same diameter wheel.
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Post by oozuk »

personally i'ed go what i did in my zook, S1 rockcrawlrer and 4.8 diff ratios out of vitara automatic front diff's.

the've got a larger pinion than the 5.13's so there stronger !!
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Post by grimbo »

personally I'm going to say look in the bloody Bible. Don't come on and say can't even be bothered to search when the answer is right at the top in the bible
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Post by DR Frankenstine »

grimbo wrote:personally I'm going to say look in the bloody Bible. Don't come on and say can't even be bothered to search when the answer is right at the top in the bible
Its not that I don't want to look Its just that I don't have time to look through all the varying information to find what I need to know!!
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Post by DR Frankenstine »

NOW... can someone tell me the std diff ratio of a 1994 1.3 litre wide track and also if the centres out of a 1997 coil sierra are a lower ratio and will they bolt up (just the centre). If not what other models diffs will fit.
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Post by nicbeer »

94 is a WT - 3.7 ratio
coilies and NT are 3.9 ratio.

I believe coiliie centres will go in as a mates got at least one of them in his.

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Post by lay80n »

nicbeer wrote:94 is a WT - 3.7 ratio
coilies and NT are 3.9 ratio.

I believe coiliie centres will go in as a mates got at least one of them in his.

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Coily front is HP, and dont thing it will fit. Rear should go okay.

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Post by DR Frankenstine »

Thanks for the info fellas ANY MORE :D :D
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Post by joeblow »

front coily will fit but is not air locker compatble.
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Post by DR Frankenstine »

Will changing from 3.7 to 3.9 make much difference?
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Post by christover1 »

DR Frankenstine wrote:Will changing from 3.7 to 3.9 make much difference?
It's only about 5% but still worth doing if you have the bits, or get them cheaply enough.
Any more reduction will likely be expensive.

I like my 1.0 litre diffs, very cheap to lower the ratios.

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Post by christover1 »

ronoor wrote:Where do you buy these 5.1 diff centres ? and how much $ ? cheers ron
You have to get 2 front Vitara diffs, and use the ring and pinion onto the Sierra carrier. If diff welded put it in, if not a mod is needed to stop the cross pins falling out. A ring or weld, but have not done this, so could be all or partly wrong...

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