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308 holden or 350 chev
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Temporary Australian
It all comes down to what you like.....
I went with the good ol' 308 . Cleaned up the bores, threw in a new set of rings & pistons, added a nice cam (not to wild but enough to get things going), high volume oil pump, cleaned up the ports in the heads , new valves, springs etc, port matched the standard spread bore manifold to suit the heads and rebuilt the Rotchester carb, added an electric fuel pump as well as LPG and fitted a good electronic dizzy plus I've made a 4" snorkel for the motor.
Now I'm not saying this is the ultimate setup but it suits my type of 4 wheeling to a tee. So far I have clocked up a heap of kays both on and off road plus I've done some deeeep water crossings that haven't stop me yet (I hope that I haven't muzzed myself now) and the 308 has proven to be reliable, fuel efficiant and it's great fun .
The only problem I've had is in keeping the clutch together, so far I've destroyed 3 in 18months.
Only the clutches though not the pressure plates, apparently it's the torque thats killing them as they are crushing the springs and breaking the rivettes in the centres only.
So far I've used a Repco custom made clutch (lasted 4000kms), Daiken clutch (lasted 7500 kms), Daiken safari tuff (this lasted the longest at 12mths) & Daiken safari tuff modified Dyna model (still going).
I'm thinking of going to a solid button clutch as my next step.
I went with the good ol' 308 . Cleaned up the bores, threw in a new set of rings & pistons, added a nice cam (not to wild but enough to get things going), high volume oil pump, cleaned up the ports in the heads , new valves, springs etc, port matched the standard spread bore manifold to suit the heads and rebuilt the Rotchester carb, added an electric fuel pump as well as LPG and fitted a good electronic dizzy plus I've made a 4" snorkel for the motor.
Now I'm not saying this is the ultimate setup but it suits my type of 4 wheeling to a tee. So far I have clocked up a heap of kays both on and off road plus I've done some deeeep water crossings that haven't stop me yet (I hope that I haven't muzzed myself now) and the 308 has proven to be reliable, fuel efficiant and it's great fun .
The only problem I've had is in keeping the clutch together, so far I've destroyed 3 in 18months.
Only the clutches though not the pressure plates, apparently it's the torque thats killing them as they are crushing the springs and breaking the rivettes in the centres only.
So far I've used a Repco custom made clutch (lasted 4000kms), Daiken clutch (lasted 7500 kms), Daiken safari tuff (this lasted the longest at 12mths) & Daiken safari tuff modified Dyna model (still going).
I'm thinking of going to a solid button clutch as my next step.
Cheers
Andrew
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Just a few mods, nothing over the top.:)
Andrew
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Just a few mods, nothing over the top.:)
so many people say go 350 have u all driven a 4wd with a 350 or just seen them go?
having driven all of the comon small blocks over the past few weeks the 350 both of them were disapointing just lack off iddle torque had to ride clutch to get them to move and thats usless offroad.
and i was impresed with the 308 torque rite from iddle and reved just as hard so thast what i'll be sticking to and hey it's still a ausy v8.
so
1st 308
2nd 400 chev
3rd 351
4th 350
5th 253
from experiance thats how i rate them tho i'm sure modified the results would be diferent.
having driven all of the comon small blocks over the past few weeks the 350 both of them were disapointing just lack off iddle torque had to ride clutch to get them to move and thats usless offroad.
and i was impresed with the 308 torque rite from iddle and reved just as hard so thast what i'll be sticking to and hey it's still a ausy v8.
so
1st 308
2nd 400 chev
3rd 351
4th 350
5th 253
from experiance thats how i rate them tho i'm sure modified the results would be diferent.
kaylee 2004 hdj78 RV. 33 mickey atz's, winchbar, 3i lift, 3i exhoust, spoties, roofracks and ufh. pimped interior .
86 lwb zook wt soa, 33's, locked, bard up, prety lights. monster tacho:/
86 lwb zook wt soa, 33's, locked, bard up, prety lights. monster tacho:/
I have a 350 chev ramjet motor in my gq patrol. I bought it as a new crate motor, it has 260kw and 540nm torque. I am very happy with its performance, im running 35inch mudders and 4:11 ratios and it goes well. My motor is injected and i run dual fuel setup (LPG) I couldn't afford to run it on straight fuel if you put your foot down it will drink, gets around 13mpg. Go the Chev
But did you find any good pron?pongo wrote:i tried gogling for the info i needed for half an hour and came up with 0 . I have the specs for a chev somewhere on a cd but i have nothing for a holden v8 .
Pat,
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
Yep small V8's are like that, I had a twin carby 3.9 Disco motor in an early Rangie, it was a ball of fun screamed it's nut off at 6500rpm doing donuts on the beach.known 2 wrote:yeh i was realy suprised but this 350 seemed very lazy unwilling to rev and the 253 just wanted to go, strange
One of the Shorty boys had a 253 in a FJ40 at Connondale Gymkana one year, there were 350's, 351's, 308's and even a 454, but the best sounding 8 of the lot in the mud was this little 253, never missed a beat, screamed it's nut off doing rooster tails all weekend, while the bigger blocks rumbled & blated & misfired.
I like a big grunty V8, but if you're going to hit 6500rpm, it sounds better in a V8 than a 4 or 6 cyl.
Pat,
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
I have a 350 Chev in one of my Rangies with a TF727, LT230 3.56's and 35's, If the axels don't snap first, it will light up all 4 35's on the road.known 2 wrote:so many people say go 350 have u all driven a 4wd with a 350 or just seen them go?
having driven all of the comon small blocks over the past few weeks the 350 both of them were disapointing just lack off iddle torque had to ride clutch to get them to move and thats usless offroad.
and i was impresed with the 308 torque rite from iddle and reved just as hard so thast what i'll be sticking to and hey it's still a ausy v8.
so
1st 308
2nd 400 chev
3rd 351
4th 350
5th 253
from experiance thats how i rate them tho i'm sure modified the results would be diferent.
I just has a quadrajet on it and a cam.
I bet the 350's you drove had holleys on them didn't they.
[quote="Wooders"]If ya want a 4x4 camry go ahead & buy a Patrol or Cruiser.[/quote]Rangie with 80s LC diffs, Isuzu 4bd1, Twin ARB lockers, 8000lb Hi mount warn, 315x75x16 Procomp XTerrains
Welded Centres and CDL incloughy wrote:Is this with the centre diff lock locked and front and rear lockers locked in , otherwise its impossible you'll just be spinning the front leftMaggot4x4 wrote:it will light up all 4 35's on the road.
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[quote="Wooders"]If ya want a 4x4 camry go ahead & buy a Patrol or Cruiser.[/quote]Rangie with 80s LC diffs, Isuzu 4bd1, Twin ARB lockers, 8000lb Hi mount warn, 315x75x16 Procomp XTerrains
Both Chev and Holden V8's are 90 deg V its just the chev is a much more compact motor . As for engines ive had 253's, 308's V8's , 3.8 V6 Holdens and Chev 262, 305, 350, 383, 400 small blocks and 454 B/Block ( current ) and what i discovered is that there is a substitute for cubes and thats more of them. You cant describe the feeling of driving at a 1000 rpm and to hit the pedal to the floor and all wheels just instantly hook up with no clutch of gear change is just ace.Ruggers wrote:chev more power more parts cheaper parts and they fit better being a tighter v
Go the cubes
Wally
THERES ONLY ONE SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBES AND THATS MORE and if you want more inchs stroke it !!!!!!!!!!!
Actually mine used to spin the front right sometimes too, with the 3.9 Disco motorcloughy wrote:Is this with the centre diff lock locked and front and rear lockers locked in , otherwise its impossible you'll just be spinning the front leftMaggot4x4 wrote:it will light up all 4 35's on the road.
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Pat,
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
Maggot4x4 wrote:I have a 350 Chev in one of my Rangies with a TF727, LT230 3.56's and 35's, If the axels don't snap first, it will light up all 4 35's on the road.known 2 wrote:so many people say go 350 have u all driven a 4wd with a 350 or just seen them go?
having driven all of the comon small blocks over the past few weeks the 350 both of them were disapointing just lack off iddle torque had to ride clutch to get them to move and thats usless offroad.
and i was impresed with the 308 torque rite from iddle and reved just as hard so thast what i'll be sticking to and hey it's still a ausy v8.
so
1st 308
2nd 400 chev
3rd 351
4th 350
5th 253
from experiance thats how i rate them tho i'm sure modified the results would be diferent.
I just has a quadrajet on it and a cam.
I bet the 350's you drove had holleys on them didn't they.
i have no idea what carbies they had but i plan on stroking the 308 to maybe 355 then get some serios power out of it
kaylee 2004 hdj78 RV. 33 mickey atz's, winchbar, 3i lift, 3i exhoust, spoties, roofracks and ufh. pimped interior .
86 lwb zook wt soa, 33's, locked, bard up, prety lights. monster tacho:/
86 lwb zook wt soa, 33's, locked, bard up, prety lights. monster tacho:/
hahaha yeh i've heard that before also heard it about 302 clevo's
but the deals done i now have a 308 powered 75 series just have to get some engine mounts that don't keep snapping
but the deals done i now have a 308 powered 75 series just have to get some engine mounts that don't keep snapping
kaylee 2004 hdj78 RV. 33 mickey atz's, winchbar, 3i lift, 3i exhoust, spoties, roofracks and ufh. pimped interior .
86 lwb zook wt soa, 33's, locked, bard up, prety lights. monster tacho:/
86 lwb zook wt soa, 33's, locked, bard up, prety lights. monster tacho:/
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