On Board AIR -which air con compressor to use

Post by **Krankieone** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:27 am

Last night I spent about 4 hours searching this but couldn't find an answer

I have finally got cheesed off with my toy compressor which takes about 10 min to pump up each tyre and want to get a decent OBA set up .I have a 97 jeep wrangler annd want to mount it in place of the idler pulley over the alternator so a compresor that takes a 7 rib pulley would be easyest.

What I would loke to know is what model cars have the best compressors that will fit and take a serpintine type belt

Thanks

Post by **Woop** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:03 am

If you've got the space, the best compressor to use is a YORK compressor. These have their own oil resevoir, and dont seem to lose as much oil as a rotary type. Use high temp braided airhose on the compressor output and a Lawn Mower airfilter on the compressor intake. A truck airbrake tank makes an ideal air resevoir. Make sure you include a functioning Safety Valve on the tank. Use an industrial type adjustable pressure switch with inbuilt un-loader valve to prevent leaks past the compressor rings, and ensure compressor starts under no-load. Run solid nylon airlines with either push fit or compression fittings, to front and back with suitable quick connect fittings.

Nick

Post by **Krankieone** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:43 pm

Thanks for the reply Nick I know the yorks came on older ford V8's but don't know if they came on any later model cars or what other types were any good and what donor cars I should look at when I visit the wreckers

Post by **sootygu** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:22 pm

Try the tech bible, heaps of info there on OBA and endless set ups.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... p?p=658982

Cheers

Post by **Krankieone** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:31 pm

I have been back through the bible and done some googleing on Yorks but it appears they didn't come with a serpentine pulley from what I read is there a way round this ( not too expensive) and I'm not to sure I can make it fit without removing the air box which I dont want to do. Is then next best option a Sanden 508 ?what cars came with these was there any running aserpentine belt

Post by **Reddo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:42 pm

when looking for one for the Disco (vee belt) I saw heaps of Ford units with serpentine belts on them all for sale for scrap value, ie, 30 bucks or so. Also saw heaps of Korean units (OK by all accounts) with the same.

So they should be out there in the wreckers in your area!

Post by **MUSS** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:42 pm

Woop wrote:If you've got the space, the best compressor to use is a YORK compressor. These have their own oil resevoir, and dont seem to lose as much oil as a rotary type. Use high temp braided airhose on the compressor output and a Lawn Mower airfilter on the compressor intake. A truck airbrake tank makes an ideal air resevoir. Make sure you include a functioning Safety Valve on the tank. Use an industrial type adjustable pressure switch with inbuilt un-loader valve to prevent leaks past the compressor rings, and ensure compressor starts under no-load. Run solid nylon airlines with either push fit or compression fittings, to front and back with suitable quick connect fittings.

Nick

i suggest you dont use this and actually plumb into your air filter shroud... makin sure it is on the CLEAN side of your air filter as this will prevent water etc from entering your air system while tackling mud and water... and put your connection out of the weather... under your passenger and drvers seat is a good spot again to keep mub and crap form fouling fittings etc... good luck and post up some pics when your done!

Post by **Beastmavster** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:55 pm

Sanden or york.

For the amount you can buy a generator for $129 at repco it's almost worth buying a 240V aircompressor and a generator.

Hey... whatdya know...I have both

Post by **Krankieone** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:19 pm

do you know what type of compresors the fords had?

Yes I plan to put the intake in the air box so it should stay dry unless I dunk the snorkle

then it'll be the least of my problems

the generator idea isn't bad but room is at a premium in a TJ if I took it Id have to leave the esky behind.

Post by **Krankieone** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:06 pm

It would apear that a York will be a PITA to fit so it have to be a Sanden type anyone know which models have the highest output ?

Post by **bazzle** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:08 pm

One off an old Sigma

BAzzle

Post by **bogged** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:09 pm

Krankieone wrote:It would apear that a York will be a PITA to fit so it have to be a Sanden type anyone know which models have the highest output ?

as baz said, off old sigmas... OLD ones.

Post by **Woop** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:10 pm

The ultimate compressor to use if you have the space and time is a single cylinder belt driven truck airbrake compressor with the front modified to take an electric clutch. Will run continuasly--the only problem is finding a spot for the oil supply and drain.

Nick

Post by **MUSS** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:18 pm

Woop wrote:The ultimate compressor to use if you have the space and time is a single cylinder belt driven truck airbrake compressor with the front modified to take an electric clutch. Will run continuasly--the only problem is finding a spot for the oil supply and drain.

Nick

pics please

Post by **bazzle** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:21 am

MUSS wrote:
Woop wrote:The ultimate compressor to use if you have the space and time is a single cylinder belt driven truck airbrake compressor with the front modified to take an electric clutch. Will run continuasly--the only problem is finding a spot for the oil supply and drain.

Nick
pics please

Woop hasnt got any pics

Dreaming again

He runs an Endless air (sigma type)

Bazzle

Post by **Krankieone** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:29 am

Krankieone wrote:It would apear that a York will be a PITA to fit so it have to be a Sanden type anyone know which models have the highest output ?

Perhaps I need to rephrase this

what compressor with a serpentine pulley has the highest output?

Post by **Woop** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:05 am

I'll post a pic up of the one i have in the garage

Nick

Post by **Krankieone** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:14 am

Woop wrote:I'll post a pic up of the one i have in the garage

Nick

thanks Mate

I went to see if my mate had anything suitable kicking around in his workshop but no luck I'll try to get of to the Wreckers tomorrow

Post by **Woop** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:07 am

Belt driven airbrake compressor. Will fabricate a magnetic clutch to enable it to freewheel when not required. Needs oil supply/drain from the motor.
[img][img]http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/ ... ressor.jpg[/img][/img]

Website · Post by **LuxyBoy** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:19 pm

York came on Volvos too. You wanna buy mine

I bought one but can't fit so got one from hobzee to go in the tray and put a second battery in the place of the york

Post by **gqpete** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:45 pm

ive had heaps of endless air setups, as in modified aircon pumps on gq. sick of reliability hassles, dried bearings, mud troubles etc. got twin bigred electric compressors and they pump almost as quick as endless air via airtank, with much more reliability. cheers

Post by **spannercrab** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:46 am

Did you happen to come across this thread?

Heap of info in there ... I'm not retyping it

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=74159

Post by **ozy1** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:11 pm

Woop wrote:Belt driven airbrake compressor. Will fabricate a magnetic clutch to enable it to freewheel when not required. Needs oil supply/drain from the motor.
[img][img]http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/ ... ressor.jpg[/img][/img]

how much did this fellow set you back?

Post by **Woop** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:00 pm

Picked it up from a truck wrecker here in Melb for $120. Came out of a Mercedees truck. I'm planning to use an electric clutch--probably off a York air-con compressor as it is roughly about the same size as the fixed pulley it already has on it. It weighs the same as a York compressor. Looked it up on Net, and its 10CFM capacity according to manufacturer. I ended up also picking up all the valves, tanks and pneumatic switches off the same truck for my O.B.A. NOw that i have a Turbo, oil supply and drain should be relativley easy....

Nick

Post by **Krankieone** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:20 pm

Got started today fabbed up some brackets and mounted the compressor (a Sanden off a V6 commadore)

with the inlet hose inplace I couldn't close the bonnet so off it came and I managed to find a 1/2" gal fitting I could weld on to some plate looks pretty rugged but it seems to work OK .

Post by **sudso** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:12 pm

What about a Harrison a/c compressor? I've got one on an older chev motor.
Would they be any good for endless air as i'm thinking of using it for this once the engine finds a bay to live in?

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