STD diffs and 33's

Post by **CWBYUP** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:44 pm

I've been thinking about putting 33's under the zuk.

Its SPOA high steer 2" body lift with 2 inch shackels.

What are the things to consider ? Do i need more lift ?

just trying to get thoughts together if i want to do it or not.

I will need gears but what else ?

Cheers Nick

Post by **ofr57** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:58 pm

spare Cv's

should be fine
shouldn't need the 8 inches of lift to fit 33's though
4 or 5 with some trimming and you should fit 33's

Post by **lay80n** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:02 am

Atraight SPOA will fit with a bit of thinking and a slight trim. Lifting past SPOA is jut asking for instability. If anything you will want less lift.

Layto....

Post by **CWBYUP** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:29 am

The hopeful plan is to fit gears and 33's over x - mas and then if i can take the body lift out if it.

Thanks for the help guys keep it coming.

Cheers Nick

Post by **stumped** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 pm

u'll just have to make sure u drive fairly gently... CVs will blow, and maybe axles...

Post by **moose** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:38 am

stumped wrote:u'll just have to make sure u drive fairly gently... CVs will blow, and maybe axles...

Baa Humbug !!!

over 7 years of running 33,s on standard diffs , have never broken a CV or axle !!!
(but replaced a few bearings !!)

Post by **waxhead..** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:59 pm

Moose I am so curious as to how? no one else I know does it, and CV's regularly blow on most WT's on 31's... do you drive mainly mud?

And I am not having a dig.

Post by **muppet_man67** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:14 pm

waxhead.. wrote:Moose I am so curious as to how? no one else I know does it, and CV's regularly blow on most WT's on 31's... do you drive mainly mud?

And I am not having a dig.

are you replaceing your CV'S with genuine suzuki? Lots of zooks in the club have 31's and I cant remember any breakages on this size with 1.3 liter stuff. the guys with 33+ size tyres tend to break stuff on the odd occasion. in victoria though there is only limited rock, compared to mud/clay/ruts type stuff but we still find it and drive it.

Post by **ljxtreem** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:23 pm

I ran 36" TSLs on my zook locked fornt and rear, sure I broke a couple of CVs, but rarely.

33's are fine, just love it a little and it will love you back.

If the CV's are cheep chinese one they will die verry quick!

I think zook CV's are made by NTN, I think

same matirial as patrol ones, and replacement ones may be avalible at a reasnable price.

Ill look into it.

Mock

Post by **Dee** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:42 pm

Question:

Are NT & WT CV's the same, if not fitting wise, then strength wise?
What about the rest of the diff (centres & axle) strength?

Post by **ljxtreem** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:34 pm

NT & WT are the same, though 1ltr CV's are smaller but you can put 1.3 axles and CV's in a 1ltr.

Centres are pretty good, I never busted one, people bust 1ltr ones sometimes and if you run vitara 5.12 gears, the pinions could break cuz they are small, never seen one broken though.

Zook CV's are NTN from what I can find, should be able to get em through hardy spicer. they sell patrol ones and they are pretty well priced.

they are genuine CV's

Mock

Post by **Dee** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:09 pm

thanks for that.

Post by **nicbeer** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:03 pm

U saying also that NT and WT cvs are the same? just axles are longer in WT?

Nic

Post by **ljxtreem** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:16 pm

Yep

Mock

Post by **grimbo** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:52 am

I never blew a CV running 34" Swampers and front and rear lockers but that is in Victorian conditions where we have a lot of low traction driving not on rock

Post by **ljxtreem** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:26 am

Drove the boulders and the deep ruts after that, not a problem,
Ok we drive low traction ie mud, in vic but I wouldnt say that tracks like jacksons break, the boulders and others like that are low traction. on that compacted dirt you would often have more traction than rock cuz the tyres have got something to bight into.

Hay, I drive rock

Mock

Post by **grimbo** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:31 am

true, maybe us Victorians can just drive better

Post by **ljxtreem** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:41 am

grimbo wrote:true, maybe us Victorians can just drive better

Yes, you must be right

Mock

Post by **moose** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 pm

waxhead.. wrote:Moose I am so curious as to how? no one else I know does it, and CV's regularly blow on most WT's on 31's... do you drive mainly mud?

And I am not having a dig.

maybe just lucky ?? dont know !!!
mud , rocks , sand , snow !! what ever is in front of me !!!

(just quitely , i dont drive softly either !!)

Post by **ofr57** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:31 pm

later down the track I'm planning on running 33's so i can get that little more diff clearance

Post by **mike** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:21 pm

Only time I've broken a C/V with my 31 12.5 boggers is snatching a 3 ton Nissan in reverse on full lock :-)
I do use birfield rings tho

Post by **ofr57** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:48 pm

mike wrote:Only time I've broken a C/V with my 31 12.5 boggers is snatching a 3 ton Nissan in reverse on full lock :-)
I do use birfield rings tho

whats these birfield rings

Post by **mike** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:58 pm

ofr57 wrote: whats these birfield rings

That would be these things here...

http://www.off-road.com/suzuki/reviews/rrbirfield.htm

Post by **Wesley** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:15 pm

I blew my front diff centre (stripped of all the teeth on the gears) running 31's in sand dunes, stock 1.3, stock gears. Though i did launch it on the road in 4wd a couple of weeks before which i think damaged them. I welded it back together and havnt had any problems since. Its been welded for almost 2 years now.

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