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Vit front end lift ( now with pics )
Vit front end lift ( now with pics )
Quick Question to those that have lifted a vit.
I got i little held up with other things on the weekend so could only get the rear lift in which was simple, but the front might be a bit trickier.
As i am doing a strut mount flip at the same time do i just undo the top of the strut as per strut mount flip intructions and then lower/push down the sus arms untill the spring pops out and replace it with the lifted one and bolt it up to the fliped strut mounts or is there more to it than that?
Any one got a write up on it, i cant find one.
I got i little held up with other things on the weekend so could only get the rear lift in which was simple, but the front might be a bit trickier.
As i am doing a strut mount flip at the same time do i just undo the top of the strut as per strut mount flip intructions and then lower/push down the sus arms untill the spring pops out and replace it with the lifted one and bolt it up to the fliped strut mounts or is there more to it than that?
Any one got a write up on it, i cant find one.
Last edited by qld zook on Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Lifted and locked vitara
I'm about to do the same thing mate and have asked many people who have told me that it is easy.
You will need to do as explained however you also need to release your sway bar bolts and slowly lower the spring as they are very compressed.
What springs have you used and how much higher were they? I have ordered "Raised" King Springs and was wondering how much lift to expect.
Ben
You will need to do as explained however you also need to release your sway bar bolts and slowly lower the spring as they are very compressed.
What springs have you used and how much higher were they? I have ordered "Raised" King Springs and was wondering how much lift to expect.
Ben
Donning the Zook called Tara
Lifting a Vit
If you look at the ends of the front "wishbone", you will see two bolts which hold in the bottom ball joint. Undo these, with the car lifted off the ground, releasing the pressure off the springs (so they don't break your eye socket when they are finally released). Then you'll be able to drop the strut (with some persuasion from a foot or something handy) and changed the released springs by pushing the shock top down.
Regards,
Adam
Regards,
Adam
1998 Vitara Hard Top 2.0 EFI
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
65mm springs (by Allsprings)
35mm body lift
Rancho RS9000's
235's on 15in alloys
Flipped strut mounts
Re: Lifting a Vit
ok, ummm, i might be wrong here, but i think the ball joint on the lower arm has 3 bolts. they are a bit tricky to get on and off, but you will soon find the right angle for it to come apart.Impulsive wrote:If you look at the ends of the front "wishbone", you will see two bolts which hold in the bottom ball joint. Undo these, with the car lifted off the ground, releasing the pressure off the springs (so they don't break your eye socket when they are finally released). Then you'll be able to drop the strut (with some persuasion from a foot or something handy) and changed the released springs by pushing the shock top down.
Regards,
Adam
the ball joint is part of the spindle. and the strut is bolted to the spindle.
if you have your car sitting at normal height, you should support the car as it is, or jack it up an inch or 2, but not until the tyre is off the ground. now you can undo the strut mount bolts, push the strut top through the body and do the mount flip. taking the tyre off makes it much easier.
make sure the strut has not topped out, otherwise it will be harder to undo. and make sure you are supporting the lower control arm, and not on the chassis.
1995 Vitara:
stock standard
WWW.DARWIN4X4.NET
stock standard
WWW.DARWIN4X4.NET
even though i haven't added or updated the vit bible for a while, i thought the whole point of it was for quick reference to most vit related questions.
anyway....
thats from this thread: http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=46893
anyway....
if you install the spacers as the write up says, you wont need to (hopefully) undo the strut, and brake caliper, or touch the hubs and CVs. other ways to install and remove springs will involve the above.
well, you can flip the strut mount before or after you've put the coil spacers in. but, maybe do this after you've put the spacers in, but before you put the tyre on. the strut holds the front end up pretty much.
so simply, theres the big nut on top of the strut, through engine bay, some may have a dust cap. cant remember if it was a 17mm or a 19mm, but shouldnt be too much smaller of bigger. (just a rough guide) some might have a dust cap on, so just pry it off with a screw driver or your fingers if you can.
try and loosen it in your first go, maybe use a breaker bar or extension for more leverage. if you can 'break' it, it will be good, beacause sometimes the nut will be on tight, and with mud and dust, it will be hard to get off. sometime the actual shaft of the strut will start to turn, this is a head ache.
anyway, loosen it, but dont take it off yet, you can, but its a little more work. after loosening the top bolt, undo the 3 smaller ones arounds it. these 3 bolts hold the strut mount to the chassis, and the big centre nut holds the strut in the mount.
after undoing the 3 smaller bolts, you can pull the strut down and out of its position. now, holding the shaft, undo the big bolt, and take the mount off. if you want, you can mark where the mount was in relation to the front of the car, just incase. (i do it anyway, safety thing)
now, with the mount off, you will see that there arent any bolts, but 3 studs instead. like the studs for the wheels. anyway, you will need to knock these out, as you will be flipping the mount upside down. my mount was a bit wonky after i belted the crap out of it to get the studs out. if this happens to you, settly down a bit, relax, take a deep breath, and do it again.
i actually killed the studs that came out, so i went and got some high tensile bolts of the same size, but a little longer just in case. probably best if you replace the studs with HT bolts anyway. if you really want, get some nyloc nuts and washers instead of the normal nut and spring washer. i find these a bit better to work with in the end.
after you've knocked the studs out, you can put the mount back onto the strut, but upside down. put the big bolt back on, and do it up as tight as you can. you'll need to recheck it after you've put it back into place. then move the strut into position, and put the HT bolts through the holes and do them up. this is basically it in a few words or more.
NOTE: you will see this when you take the mount off, that the underside has a lip, and when you flip the mount, the lip will be where it mounts to the chassis. some people either take the lip off, so that the mount is flat, and others, most, just stack a couple of good washers in ther to level it out. this is so when you do the 3 smaller bolts up tight, you wont pull the strut mount inside out and make it all wonky.
i used washers. not sure how big, but i think i used 2 for each bolt.
after everything is back in place, do the bolts up tight. and retighten the big nut. make sure the shaft does not spin. on the mount itself, the centre hole has a flat side, and so if you have a rag and vice grips, you can hold the shaft while doing the big nut up. you can use this method for undoing the big nut. make sure you dont clamp too tight and leave impressions in the shaft, this will result in some new old man emu struts and $400 poorer! try gripping as high up on the shaft as possible.
if you leave any marks or teeth gouges in the shaft, this will kill the seal on the actual strut as the shaft compresses and extends. not good.
and also, watch out for the shaft protective boot. its not great, but its better than nothing. you dont need to put this back, but it saves the shaft from rocks and stuff when doing high speed dirt road driving.
and i think thats all.
just make sure to tighten everything back up tight, but not over tight. nyloc nuts give a sense of security, as you know it shouldn't come loose anytime soon.
and as you might have noticed by now, or when you do this, that the 6 smaller bolts (left and right sides) and the 2 big nuts, are all that hold the front struts upright, and in essence, the front end together. so don't take short cuts and neglect anything. just take it slow, and easy, and dont rush. set aside a saturday or sunday, and if you finish early, take it for a drive. first times always take 50 times as long, but when you get the hang of it, she's all good from there on.
thats from this thread: http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=46893
1995 Vitara:
stock standard
WWW.DARWIN4X4.NET
stock standard
WWW.DARWIN4X4.NET
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=24528qld zook wrote:Thanks SiKiD the bible is good no doubt and there is plenty of info there on the sturt mount flip, it was the actual removing/replacing of the front springs that i needed a bit of clarification on.
1995 Vitara:
stock standard
WWW.DARWIN4X4.NET
stock standard
WWW.DARWIN4X4.NET
finally got the sus sorted today and am quite happy with the rear but the front is still IFS so it is all good considering that
Extreme gutter driving
Standard shocks compared to Cresseda ones
Next on the agenda is to wire in the rear springs as they fall out on full flex and then some 235/75s
Extreme gutter driving
Standard shocks compared to Cresseda ones
Next on the agenda is to wire in the rear springs as they fall out on full flex and then some 235/75s
Lifted and locked vitara
Don't know the brand or spec on the shocks they are the one's that came with there 3" lift kit.
I had to fit one spring spacer to the rear of my Vit to balance out the rear, the design of these one's I fitted are great they just don't sit on the top of the spring.
I didn't want my spring falling out as well.
Will try to find out who I brought them off (Ebay sellar) and pot later.
I was able to buy just one spacer from him.
I had to fit one spring spacer to the rear of my Vit to balance out the rear, the design of these one's I fitted are great they just don't sit on the top of the spring.
I didn't want my spring falling out as well.
Will try to find out who I brought them off (Ebay sellar) and pot later.
I was able to buy just one spacer from him.
Suzuki Vitara JX 1.6 EFI Hardtop.
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
i will put spacers in all round as i want a little more lift and the front is not the same height as the back so mingt have to get some custom ones.
Found this on ebay
http://www.oztion.com.au/vshops/item.aspx?itemid=605051
Found this on ebay
http://www.oztion.com.au/vshops/item.aspx?itemid=605051
Lifted and locked vitara
If you want those type go to the NBS site and PM Bruce for a price he makes them at a cheaper price and will make them to the size you want.
Suzuki Vitara JX 1.6 EFI Hardtop.
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
Here is the guy in England that make the spring spacers.
He doesn't have them listed at the moment but you can email him for price and pics etc.
http://stores.ebay.com.au/Bits4Vits
Will see if I have any pics of them at home tonight.
He doesn't have them listed at the moment but you can email him for price and pics etc.
http://stores.ebay.com.au/Bits4Vits
Will see if I have any pics of them at home tonight.
Suzuki Vitara JX 1.6 EFI Hardtop.
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
The guy also have a good rightup on lifting his Vit.
http://www.k9rdj.co.uk/vitara/vitlift.htm
Found the pics
http://www.k9rdj.co.uk/vitara/vitlift.htm
Found the pics
Suzuki Vitara JX 1.6 EFI Hardtop.
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
there is a guy on http://www.nbs4x4club.com/forum/ that sells coil spacers..
BRUCE...Potter wrote:there is a guy on http://www.nbs4x4club.com/forum/ that sells coil spacers..
Suzuki Vitara JX 1.6 EFI Hardtop.
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
See my pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/suzukiboyoz
well i was actually trying to think of a good way and forgot about it. then i went for a bit of a drive today and one fell out so i just cable tied them in and it seems to work fine might just replace the ties with thicker stronger ones. i just looped it around the axle and then through one of the coils and them did the same on the other side of the coil.
Lifted and locked vitara
[quote="icekayak"][quote="mroffroader"]so how do you wire them in?[/quote]
probably worth asking on ORE but i had an idea it wasn't legal in NZ to wire them in for some reason...[/quote]
yea i probably wont be bothered to wire them in now ice bbecuase now i have purchased a highlift jack its only a couple of secs to wack them back in
probably worth asking on ORE but i had an idea it wasn't legal in NZ to wire them in for some reason...[/quote]
yea i probably wont be bothered to wire them in now ice bbecuase now i have purchased a highlift jack its only a couple of secs to wack them back in
80 series landcruiser and a suzuki 413 :)
From what I hear, to get my LR road registered, I have to make them captured. I was going to do that anyway because its more stable on sidelings, you actually have weight on the dropped side, and because the americans do iticekayak wrote:probably worth asking on ORE but i had an idea it wasn't legal in NZ to wire them in for some reason...mroffroader wrote:so how do you wire them in?
I'll second (third,whatever) Bruce as the man to go to for spacers. Got a 40 mm lift for my vitara for 112 bucks! (Including postage from QLD to VIC). Arrived at my front door in 4 days Easy to put in. Couple of blokes a few jacks and a spanner and ratchet set. I referenced that UK guy aswell, but it really is just common sense.
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