80 series handbrake help!!

[XLGXL]

Have tried to adjust my 80 series hande brake (Big mistake) got to the part to wind the wheel up till the brake shoes grip the rotor then I goto wind the wheel back 8 clicks nothing.
Problem is I can not wind it back off at all. Now the hand brake is stuck on, I can not move the brake rotor at all

HELP!! I really need the car going thought it would be a 2 hour job so far a day and a half and still going

[dow50r]

Keep with it....you should be able to use a sharp flat bladedscrewdriver to back them off, they do get stuck and need some pursuading to come back off.
Andrew

[Bluey]

had the same problem when i went to do wheel bearings on my 73 series. brake shoe locked onto drum, took me hours to get it off.

have you tried disconnecting the handbrake cable from the rear of the brakes, should help unless the adjuster is wound out forcing the brake shoes into the drum

[XLGXL]

Still no luck releasing the brake shoes I have tried a bit of force but I think it might be starting to damage the wheel I can't see any other way the having to rotate that small wheel so I can get the disc rotor off

I can't even drive it to a workshop to get it fix

[Bluey]

i don't mean to be prick, but have you taken handbrake off, turning adjuster wrong way or anything else that people (me, i've done this too) do when they get tired and frustrated with something. i've actaually got a 80 series too, and i have always taken drum off to try to adjust the brakes. only good thing for a cruiser handbrake is a house brick to put behind a wheel before it rolls away.

when i had trouble with my 73 series drum, what had happened i think was the axle seal leaked letting diff oil into the bearings and washing out the grease. the brake shoes were more worn than i had thought and seamed to stick to inside of the drum. i had to use big screwdrivers and even hammer from the other side to get the drum off. the brake shoe assembly had somehow ridden up and was no longer centered, therefore the adjuster couldn't do its job properly.

i hope you can gleam some sort of idea from my description to help you out. if you need more help i can pull my drums off tomorrow to see if i can come up some great idea for you.

[MUSS]

ill be over there to help out tomorrow jas

[XLGXL]

Thanks Bluey for your help.I was in the process of replacing the handbrake cable the old one has been over used so I can rule that one out.
Trying to turn the adjuster wheel down to lossen the handbrake shoes as descibed in the Gregorys Toyota handbook so I can rule that one out
going to have some fresh eyes have a look at it tomorrow maybe I'am missing something?
Will let you know.

[Grasshopper]

Maybe a stupid question, but have you absolutely checked you are turning the adjuster the right way to back off the hand brake. On one wheel the adjuster will move up to tighten and the other one will move in the opposite direction.
Grasshopper.

[XLGXL]

Yeah thought of that but it states in the Gregorys that to loosen the shoes to turn the wheel down it doesn't mention on one side only?

[hdj105]

Unless someone has had the assembly apart and put the adjuster in the other way around.

Pull the opposite side drum (rotor) off, check out how it all works and apply what you learn to the side that's stuck.

[Bluey]

nah, baout 99.99% sure that it is different direction for different sides

[sniper]

You would tell which way to turn it when you adjust it, so doubt you could mix that up. When he adjust it and it gets tighter obviously the oppisite direstion will losen it.

Are you sure you cant wind it back with a flat headed screw driver. Thats how I done mine. Just put a little wait behind it.

[XLGXL]

Ok put a bit of weight behind it. Some how I don't think get the small sledge hammer out and whack the out of it. And thats exactly what I did now rendering the car .
sometimes I get frustrated in doing so destroying things make me feel better well at least while I am destroying it I feel better.
I have surrended and now walking away in defeat and tomorrow the vehicle will be towed to a workshop, were someone will look at me and say what the have you done, while I hear the neverending story/nagging from the missus saying "if you had let them do it in the first place it wouldn't of cost this much"
I would just like to say thanks to people that have responed to my emergency, it did give me hope that I could achieve this simple task myself
Thanks
Jase

[Bluey]

sorry to hear that it wasn't fixable. oh well, next time just take drum off and adjust wheel, put drum back on, drum off and adjust etc etc

your lucky you can get it towed, my backyard is steep driveway wide enough for a fourby but definately no tow truck access. if i start something i've gotta get it going again

[MUSS]

Ok put a bit of weight behind it. Some how I don't think get the small sledge hammer out and whack the out of it. And thats exactly what I did now rendering the car .
sometimes I get frustrated in doing so destroying things make me feel better well at least while I am destroying it I feel better.
I have surrended and now walking away in defeat and tomorrow the vehicle will be towed to a workshop, were someone will look at me and say what the have you done, while I hear the neverending story/nagging from the missus saying "if you had let them do it in the first place it wouldn't of cost this much"
I would just like to say thanks to people that have responed to my emergency, it did give me hope that I could achieve this simple task myself
Thanks
Jase

in with the love jas...... out with the anger

never mind mate we will know for next time

[Bluey]

can always blame the previous owner. that's what i do anyway

[MUSS]

can always blame the previous owner. that's what i do anyway

or the bastard who tells ya "we can fix it mate... just need a bigger screw driver and some more WD40"