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Swapping in a swift / barina / cino 1.3 8v

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Swapping in a swift / barina / cino 1.3 8v

Post by Libber »

OK this may be basic for some people on here but I’m going to put it up as it may help someone. There is heaps on here about the 16v swift motors but not too much about standard swift / barina / cino engines. I haven’t done anything this major before but managed, so if there is someone else doing what I did they may find some useful info.
My car is a 91 sierra with a g13b. The new motor was supposed to fit a sierra but as I learned it was out of a Cino (8v) (I think the same setup as in a swift).
For the record, the new motor has done 79,000 and cost $795. I guess it came from Japan.
Many things on it were not compatible. You need to swap these off your old motor onto the new one.
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Post by Libber »

The inlet manifold and carby will not suit the sierra.
The exhaust manifold wont either.
The sump wont fit unless you have a large suspension lift cos it will hit the diff. When you swap the sump, the dipstick needs to be swapped too.
The clutch wont fit on the sierra gearbox spline. I swapped the plate from the old one into the new one and it seems to work.
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Post by Libber »

If you can get an alternator off a swift, you may be able to use the flat belt pulleys supplied on the new motor. This would mean not being able to fit the fan on the front of the motor and installing an electric one. Also the air conditioner compressor if you have one will not be compatible with this setup.
Otherwise, you need to swap on the pulleys off the old motor which may mean swapping the crank and cam shaft timing belt sprockets. Newer motors have rounded teeth on the sprockets, older ones have square teeth. My old motor had rounded ones, the transplant had square. These had to be swapped cos the V belt pulley did not bolt straight onto the crankshaft sprocket; 5 mounting holes in one versus 4 in the other. So if you have the same timing belt style in both, you should be right without swapping sprockets (I assume).
To get the bolt off the crankshaft to get to the sprocket off, I wedged a chisel in the inspection port onto the flywheel to hold the motor still and used a breaker bar on the ratchet. The sprocket was stuck on the engine still, so I bolted the pulley back on to the sprocket and levered against the pulley. This dented the pulley a little which I didn’t worry about as Im not going to use it again.
While the timing belt is off, the water pump needs to be swapped if you plan on using the V belt pulleys. Reason is the V belt W/P pulley will not mount on the flat belt W/P as the mounting holes are different distances apart. If you were thinking of modifying the head on the pump, don’t, cos the stalks are different lengths anyway.
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Post by Libber »

FWD motors don’t seem to have mechanical fuel pumps, so take off the plate bolted onto the mounting point. There is also a small push rod (just a bit of rod a couple of inches long) that needs to go in a hole in there so it sits between the camshaft and the fuel pump. The mechanic that took the busted head off my old motor didn’t give me this part back and I assumed it was lost forever. I went around to ask about electric fuel pumps and somehow found it in the gravel! Miracle.
And I didn’t mention the camshaft. This needs to be swapped so the sierra distributor can be used. Apparently a swift one doesn’t fit cos it will hit the fire wall.
The motor needs to be out for this as the shaft slides out the rear of the motor. Don’t do what I do and intall the engine, only to take it out again.
I found the screws holding the rocker arm shafts in place in the cino motor were as soft as butter and in tight. I got one out with a screwdriver, one with an electric drill but the others stripped. An impact tool or similar would have been helpful but I don’t have one and you cant get them on Kangaroo Island. So I packed the head out with rags and used a punch to get them turning. I wouldn’t recommend this unless there is no other alternative!
I put the screws n from the old motor which seem to have thicker heads and made out of stronger material.
Swap on the alternator and A/C mounting brackets. I think that’s about it.
PS Put the oil in and crank for a while with the spark plugs out to get the oil where it needs to be.
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