City-View 4x4 Trials Round #1 24th + 25th Feb.

Post by **cityview** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:27 am

The first round of the City-View Trials for 2007 will be held on the 24th and 25th of Feb. Nominations are now open for the event and again places are limited. There are 3 classes A / B / C and only a few rules as this is an entry level event designed to be simple and fun , not full on competition. See below.

Class A (road class)
-up to 3" lift from std , no lockers or traction aids , std body and or tray , original engine config , no blue plate modifications , std inner and outer guard clearance and original flares and tyres to suit. (can rub but dnf if causes damage)

Class B (weekend worrior class)
-unlimited lift , lockers allowed (penalty for usage) no traction aids (crawler gears/active airbags/hydrolics etc) std body or tray , engine and blue plate mods allowed , outer guard and flare must be retained , tyres to suit. (can rub but dnf if causes damage)

Class C (Comp rigs and alike)
-outlaw class , unlimited , lets see what you got !!!!

Call 0424568886 for more info , again there will be scrutineering before the event either at the park on designated days or at a location near to Beenleigh by appointment only. Those trailering their rigs or travelling from afar (ie Toowoomba/NSW or sunny coast may apply for Fri or Sat morning scrutaneering.) This is based on safety in our oppinion and is not covered by a roadworthy or alike.

NOTE:

THIRD PARTY CTP EXTENSION CERTIFICATE IS COMPULSORY. Any questions please ask.

Cheers

Peter

City-View

0424568886

cityview4x4park@hotmail.com

Post by **Pesky Pete** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:10 pm

Hey Pete Put me down for outlaw again mate. I'll try and keep it on 4 wheels this time.

Post by **nairbo** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:12 pm

The Rangie will be there ,.... better start sorting it out so i dont spend all weekend working on it .......again

Post by **Zuki** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:21 pm

hello pete
Are you changing the course or will it be the same.
cheers Krazie

Post by **Pinball** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:29 pm

hmmm... better fit matresses to the side...

reckon we can free up that weekend m8..

Spock

costs the same?

Post by **bj56** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:07 pm

how much to enter and camp ???

Post by **cityview** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:05 am

Please direct all questions re the comp to my Phone 0424568886 or email cityview4x4park@hotmail.com

O/L doesnt allow hotmail so replies dont get forwarded to me from here. I only hop on the site every so often and would prefer to give you all the information in person so I can explain it thoroughly. You also need to Phone me to nominate and make arangements for scrutineering etc. Entry stays the same $150 / vehicle incl driver and nav.

Park entry fees are the same $25 / driver and vehicle + $5 / adult passenger. $5 / person to camp o/n. No discounts available for comp. weekends.

Post by **cityview** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:09 am

BOOKINGS ESSENTIAL
0424568886
THANKS
City-View

Post by **WICKED** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:19 am

have spoken to pete.

I'm in!

forgot to ask what prize's there are? any one know?

Post by **oozuk** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:14 pm

just courious with the class specs and where my car would fit in?

double locked
33's
engine conversion
Ute conversion
SPOA
series 1 rockcrawler

even thou i'm only running little wheels would mine be classes as outlaw, cos it's not really a fair comprasion when your placed up against a patrol with 38's and double lockers, even thou my car is more engineered i wouldn't stand a chance against such a broad field of competition vehicles

just courous

Post by **cityview** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:13 pm

Hey Steve,

I have been trying to make the classes and rules simple , but I think that the time has come to maybe add another class somewhere between B and C. I know your standard of vehicle and your capability but I do need to refer back to the Idea of this event. Its based on and entry level for people who havent competed before or want to step up to the next level , especially that jump from weekend worrior to comp style of vehicles. Then again there may be a call for a one make series , a Zook class , hmmmm.

Maybe my thoughts may get a few opinions raised on this thread , let me know what you think peoples. Remember ultimately this is supposed to be fun , hard work , but fun at the end of the day.

Cheers

Peter

Post by **ofr57** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:14 pm

ZOOK COMP

Post by **Pinball** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:55 pm

cityview wrote:Hey Steve,

I have been trying to make the classes and rules simple , but I think that the time has come to maybe add another class somewhere between B and C. I know your standard of vehicle and your capability but I do need to refer back to the Idea of this event. Its based on and entry level for people who havent competed before or want to step up to the next level , especially that jump from weekend worrior to comp style of vehicles. Then again there may be a call for a one make series , a Zook class , hmmmm.

Maybe my thoughts may get a few opinions raised on this thread , let me know what you think peoples. Remember ultimately this is supposed to be fun , hard work , but fun at the end of the day.

Cheers

Peter

Much as i love my zook and its capabilities... i think with the track layout from last time the wagons with bigger wheels had advantages, i know a couple of zooks got very worried about running and i don't hold much hope of placing in class B.

Having said that it was still a ball and i'll be back again... hopefully not pickin up the same award..

Spock

Post by **89casper** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:05 pm

hey peter (cityview) wat would casper be in mate would it be in Class C or B

im thinkin about it

Post by **JayCee83** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:19 pm

Diffinately up for the suzuki class

Mine is modified a little but still wont keep up with the bigger cars on that style of track. Would love to give it a go but

Post by **Pinball** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:41 pm

89casper wrote:hey peter (cityview) wat would casper be in mate would it be in Class C or B

im thinkin about it

lookin at your sig, the crawlers would bump you to outlaw... and if the tracks are the same that'd be a tad scary in a zuk on the rock...

Spock

Post by **JayCee83** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:02 pm

Not a 100% sure but i think you would still be in B class. That's what I was told and I have reduction gears aswell. I hope this is the case as there is no way in this world I would do the C class tracks in a zook

Post by **cityview** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:23 pm

Ok here goes , new class aimed at Zooks (lwb or swb) and other smaller swb vehicles of a class B nature (weekend worriors) LETS CALL IT
"CLASS B LITES". The only relaxation is drive train. Rockcrawler gears will be allowed but only for this class. It seems to be a mod that is common on Zooks. Other vehicles permitted in this class may include Rockys , Ladas , Other Daihatsus , Vitaras etc. Swb Patrols , Jeeps , 40 series etc still in "Class B Heavy".

What do you think of that one ?

Peter

Post by **WICKED** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:35 pm

well sadly i have to pull out i have a mate wedding thing that night.

maybe the next round!

Post by **Shorty40** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:25 pm

Buggies allowed ? Its just a little zook

cityview wrote:NOTE:

THIRD PARTY CTP EXTENSION CERTIFICATE IS COMPULSORY

Dont have any on an unrego vehicle

Post by **Roctoy** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:41 pm

Shorty40 wrote:Buggies allowed ? Its just a little zook

cityview wrote:NOTE:

THIRD PARTY CTP EXTENSION CERTIFICATE IS COMPULSORY
Dont have any on an unrego vehicle

yes buggys are allowed in outlaw dan

Post by **JayCee83** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:50 pm

Sounds great, I know there will be alot of people up for this class. Just wondering if they will be still run on the Class B tracks and if you are still able to use lockers (penalties applying of course).

Post by **cityview** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:45 pm

Yes buggys are very welcome. There are however a few special requests for unreg vehicles (class C only) CTP is available thru recreational rego at Dept Transport so I have heard , call me and I will explain more.

Yes to all answers in class B lites. Lockers , tracks and penalties.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO NOMINATE , THERE ARE ONLY LIMITED PLACES OTHERWISE THE COMP WILL TAKE A WEEK. YOUR CAR MUST ME REGISTERED (some exemptions apply) AND YOU MUST PASS SCRUTINEERING.

Call 0424568886 to nominate.

Cheers

Peter

Post by **AFeral** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:46 pm

Would like to enter but get the feeling with 35 muddies and chopped guards my patrol will be in the outlaw class. Don't think my little rb 30 engine will keep up with the class C trucks. think a class inbetween B and C would be good idea

Post by **def90** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:41 pm

have to agree wih you aferal, my little defender with a slight 'flare trim' wouldn't suit to well against the mog rover!!

but on pete's side, where do you stop with different classes?

Post by **cityview** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:49 am

You are very right there def90 , the fact of cutting your guards has allowed you to put bigger tyres on and get more lift , thats exactly what the rule is there to stop.

How about this. Since this is an entry level event , what if you can nominate to not take a place and still knowing how many points you get and how you went against , the others. Lets say you nominate class B , and you got 3rd , you would know but you dont get prizes , nor on the podium at the end of the day cause of your modifications. Technically this may upset some people , but look at it this way. This event is designed to get people running who normally would just sit back and watch.

Are you in?

Peter

Post by **Nev** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:21 pm

Peter, those with welded diffs...hows the penalty for usage applied...are they automatically out of contention?

Post by **cityview** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:38 am

The penalty for using lockers , having ezi-locks or detroit or welded diffs will stay the same. Its designed to even things out not make it unfair for locked vehicles. A penalty for lockers etc is equivilent to a couple of attempts incl rev. for an unlocked vehicle. Thus if you can drive an unlocked vehicle really well you can win or if you use lockers you should be able to negotiate the obstacle in one go using some skill and vehicle knowledge. Thats how it is supposed to work , to highlite vehicle ability and more importantly , driver skill.

Hope I have answered your question

Pete

Post by **Nev** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:43 pm

Righto so if you complete a course but obviously have used lockers to do it (welded) then there is a single points deduction? Was just thinking that maybe points are lost every time a locker is used and therefore as a welded can obviously not be turned off you would be continually deducting points for each section.

Post by **waxhead..** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:45 pm

Yeah Pete, I think I am there for this one. Will be at the park early Saturday morning (3rd feb) to camp, will have a chat to you about it then.
Class B Lightweights suits my little stocker sweet...

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