Outer Limits 4x4 Board

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Lookin good Mick but you got to learn when you take pics like this you are supposed to have items of interest in the background

Got a pic of the bender you are using?

the bender is just like the one NAM got. It cost about $190 i think.

Cool you are getting some good bends out of it.
What are the specs on the tube?

the bends are pretty good. I does crush them a little on the outside but i am surprised with how good they are turning out.
Tube is 50mm OD 4mm wall.

Yeah we used one of those benders doing POS's Tube work and the first lot of steel we used was real good and the second lot we bought elsewhere and it was flatening out a long time beforte the first lot did.


So you building this for Comp work?
You comming up for XRCC?

yeah thats the plan.
Not registering it, dont think i would be able to anyway!

i read in another post from overkill that his has gone through a few of these dies because they open up and then start squashing the tube. I dont really care because i can still buy a few more of them before i am close to spending the same cash as one of the speedwerx ones.

Ooooh funkaaay... Very nice bends by the look of it.

I had a half-arsed attempt at doing the front tube work on my thing today and the inside of the bend was crushed. It was too hot to keep going so I'll do some more on it tomorrow. I've notice that my die has definitely opened up since I first got it. Tube used to fit nice and tight but now it's pretty loose. Are you using seamless tube? I am using black pipe for the front clip but I'll be using some proper tube for the B pillar.

mine has opened up a bit too. When i first started the tube would sit out of the die, when i would start to bend it would then press into the die. Now the tube just sits in there, it still isnt crushing it though.

I have found that if you pump it slowly and just take your time on the bend it comes out alot better. Dont know why, but it does.

Are you guys oiling the dies before bending?

A lot of guys in the U.S oil the dies in the JD2 to get them to bend easier and make the dies last longer.

im not. I greased it once and it just made fucking big mess and didnt bend any different!

Nam, where are you getting your tube for your hoops from. In Melbourne it is hard to get seamless tube, give me a ring if you need some, I have a supplier for DOM and Chromolly.
Also tube wont fit into your bender as tube is measured OD and pipe ID, so the tube will be smaller. :wink:

Mick, looks good - well thought out.

From what I see, I believe you are capable of building a good double A-frame setup. I just wonder why you are not going triangulated 4 link (or triangulated lower control arms and upper A-frame) which have all the advantages and less problems than double A-frames.

Just looks like another home made dogbox to me until I worked out how the wishbones are going to be mounted to the chassis

mick i want to laugh at your booty fabbed death trap

but it looks ok

what is wrong?

dad making it for you?
seriously mate, it looks good, get your rockwells under there

Bitsamissin wrote:Just looks like another home made dogbox to me until I worked out how the wishbones are going to be mounted to the chassis

What are you on about?

bj on roids wrote:mick i want to laugh at your booty fabbed death trap

but it looks ok

what is wrong?

dad making it for you?
seriously mate, it looks good, get your rockwells under there

i have done the whole thing myself. It is hard lining up all the bends and and welding them together and shit like that yourself. Thats why i havent got as much done as i would like.

When the fucking axles get here i can start doing all my suspension links and stuff like that. :mad:

Bush65 wrote:Mick, looks good - well thought out.

From what I see, I believe you are capable of building a good double A-frame setup. I just wonder why you are not going triangulated 4 link (or triangulated lower control arms and upper A-frame) which have all the advantages and less problems than double A-frames.

What problems will i have with a double A-frame?

I can only forsee the problem of it only being held by one bolt but if it big enough it will be ok.

mickbj42 wrote:

Bush65 wrote:Mick, looks good - well thought out.

From what I see, I believe you are capable of building a good double A-frame setup. I just wonder why you are not going triangulated 4 link (or triangulated lower control arms and upper A-frame) which have all the advantages and less problems than double A-frames.

What problems will i have with a double A-frame?

I can only forsee the problem of it only being held by one bolt but if it big enough it will be ok.

IMHO main issue is bending lower A-frame. With separate lower control arms, a bent arm is relatively easy to remove and straighten/replace (spares are easy to carry) as the other links hold the axle in place.

The loads and stress concentrations at the apex of the A-frame and the wear of the bearing present more challenges than with 4 link.

FWIW, the guy with slinky said if he did it again, he would build a 4 link.

If you have space for double A-frame, then you have space for triangulated 4 link with same articulation, anti's and roll axis etc. but less trouble - just my $0.02.

they will be built strong and plus i can do it alot cheaper with A-frames than using 8 invidual links each with 2 heim joints on each link.

ok cage is pretty well done.

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nice

coming along bloody well

thanks. It is just taking forever!

i have been waiting for people to hang shit on it. This is everyones chance!