Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2009 8:02 pm**

Mine mount on just in front of the cross member which pushes the diff forward slightly giving a bit more clearance at the rear of the front wheel arch just my two cents

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2009 9:51 pm**

awesome!!

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2009 10:50 am**

wel done mate looks good nice job

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 10:30 am**

Any more updates yet joe ?? The suzuki sooks great

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 7:27 pm**

ok.....more pics. front comming together. i'm using factory gu cab chassis coils for thier rate and height.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 8:06 pm**

awesome work once again

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 5:53 pm**

front is comming together............a little easier than the rear thank god.

alloy coil seat in place. bumpstop still to be added.

this bracket bolts to the new coil tower as well as the old upper arm bolts on the chassis. will help distribute the load remembering the main bumpstop will be under the chassis rail, not in the coil mount (coil mount bumpstop is a secondary item)

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 12:42 pm**

shit yer! nice stuff

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 5:40 pm**

First thing Id like to say is how great it is to see some-one who can do a decent weld, especially when its holding youre entire running gear together. I have seen some horrendous welding on these forums from people doing back yard jobs. I cant imagine how many people are sitting on a time bomb from stress cracks from poor welding....Well Done.

Id hate to think what that aluminium rod would be worth.

Posted: **Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:47 pm**

crozza wrote:First thing Id like to say is how great it is to see some-one who can do a decent weld, especially when its holding youre entire running gear together. I have seen some horrendous welding on these forums from people doing back yard jobs. I cant imagine how many people are sitting on a time bomb from stress cracks from poor welding....Well Done.

Id hate to think what that aluminium rod would be worth.

ta for the comments crozza.

long weekend........at home............time to get most of the little stuff done.

diff centre and axles installed today.............excuse the shock on a funny angle.........am yet to do the mounts.

front tyre on to check clearances.

yep...........gonna need some flares.

the front is sitting pretty much at exactly the hight i wanted it to, so tommorow i will be setting up the four bumpstops for the front and taking final measurements for the shock towers.

i have not installed the rear centre yet as i'm waiting on the sale of the old front diff with air locker. when i do the rear i will be doing a detailed install of the 2 piece locker if people are interested to know.

Posted: **Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:31 pm**

Are you tying the radius arm mounts into anything else other than the gearbox crossmember?

Posted: **Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:54 pm**

Nice work!

I'm attempting something similar to a 40 series at the moment, so I can appreciate all the time that goes into something like this!

I'll throw up some pics soon as well.

BTW, who are you getting it engineered through?

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:19 pm**

the radius arm mounts have a little more gusseting to go. i'm using vehicle systems engineering.

all i have to do now is modify a piece for the tie rod end and install the rear locker and she's pretty much done.

front coil seat arrangement.

shock tower in place.

with some silverstones fitted.

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:28 pm**

crozza wrote:First thing Id like to say is how great it is to see some-one who can do a decent weld, especially when its holding youre entire running gear together. I have seen some horrendous welding on these forums from people doing back yard jobs. I cant imagine how many people are sitting on a time bomb from stress cracks from poor welding....Well Done.

Id hate to think what that aluminium rod would be worth.

id like to see some links to these backyard jobs... better not be reffering to me

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:34 pm**

Looks like a lot of PJs are required for this job

Are you not concerned about the torsional loads the upper spring mounts will apply to the smal lux chassis?

My engineer is and has requested a cross member either over or under the engine to remove such loads?

His advice makes sense to me, but is he underating the Hi Lux chassis?

And thanks for the thread, it's a good example.

Cheers

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:48 pm**

Just went back a page and see you intend to put some bracing between the chassis rails, will be interested to see how this is acheived.

Cheers

Posted: **Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:45 pm**

what ever bracing goes between the chassis will be a bolt-in arrangement.

Posted: **Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:45 pm**

any updates?

Posted: **Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:20 pm**

cruiser diffs on the rocky???

Posted: **Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:46 am**

Maybe a silly question, but why flip the rear housing ?

Posted: **Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:53 am**

Breaker Brother wrote:Maybe a silly question, but why flip the rear housing ?

get the drive shaft out of the fuel tank

Posted: **Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:08 pm**

Struth wrote:Looks like a lot of PJs are required for this job

Are you not concerned about the torsional loads the upper spring mounts will apply to the smal lux chassis?

My engineer is and has requested a cross member either over or under the engine to remove such loads?

His advice makes sense to me, but is he underating the Hi Lux chassis?

And thanks for the thread, it's a good example.

Cheers

If im not mistaken, doesnt IFS induce a torsional load on the chassis already? I know leafs will induce a stretching load.

and doesnt an engine wedged between the two spring towers count as a brace?

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:01 pm**

bubs wrote:
Breaker Brother wrote:Maybe a silly question, but why flip the rear housing ?
get the drive shaft out of the fuel tank

haha....yep.

can i also say that the original torsion bars worked out to be about 500lb rating each, and the new coils are rated at 275lb each, so there is a fair bit of stress removed from the front end. also, the original bumpstops were pretty far outside the chassis rails which also place lots of stress on the rails. the new ones are two stage each corner. one inside the tower and one inline with the chassis.

anyway......benn hot rodding it to fit larger tyres than expected amongst other things (guard cut and bar trim), and will put some updated pics on shortly. all she is waiting on now is the new tie rod.

oh, here is one of two c/members. this one bolts in behind the rad, the other runs under the sump.

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:55 am**

joeblow wrote:
dirtfix wrote:Looks like alot of work. Bloody nice work at that. I was thinking of putting some 80 series running gear under my gen 2 hilux but this has got me thinking. 1 i dont have the equiptment for this kinds thing and 2 its looking quite complicated for a novice like me.
its a big job, but with time its very worth while. a bad job is a rushed job. if you can make the time and do it neatly the feeling afterwards is great, plus it makes for engineering it easy. if they see a lot of time being taken to get it right they(engineers) will lean more towards your ideas.

front is clean and ready for new brackets. been a little distracted by working on my mates 1UZ-FE powered rocky thart we have been doing for the past 3 years and is almost done.........some pics............gotta love the tojo v8.........Those quad cams are a real beauty, old boss put one in his HZ one tonner, went real good. In a rocky it'll be good fun, hope its hooked up to a manual? Heard of blokes getting over 600hp with the 1UZ-FE. One bloke told me all they need is an extra injector in the manifold and a computer to run it. Best thing is they are cheap!

anyway......the lux is on it rear wheels with handbrake and normal brakes working well. the front diff with locker is for sale and this will cover the new rear airlocker we need.

the front should go together rather quickly now that it is all clean, but some bracing between the chassis will be needed as the ifs crossmember has been removed.

the new front arm mounts will be located on the g/box crossmember. would rather they be on the chassis for removal of the c/member sake, but this is the perfect spot for the system we are running.

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:12 am**

Doin an exelent job mate, you're doin what toyota should be doin. Do the engineers have any problems with this change over? I'm sure if the engineer was a 4WD enthusiast he'd more than accept it coz it'd be stronger. I heard even the ute and troopy are independent fronts on the new models!? Thats why i'll be spending money on my 80 to keep her alive and strong and if the rust gets to her she'll be a ute. keep up the good work and the pics!

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:29 pm**

rowenb wrote:Doin an exelent job mate, you're doin what toyota should be doin. Do the engineers have any problems with this change over? I'm sure if the engineer was a 4WD enthusiast he'd more than accept it coz it'd be stronger. I heard even the ute and troopy are independent fronts on the new models!? Thats why i'll be spending money on my 80 to keep her alive and strong and if the rust gets to her she'll be a ute. keep up the good work and the pics!

this will be engineered. the new troopies are still live axle, just with the addition of air bags because they were loosing contracts to mining companies as far OHS goes.

some more pics with the guard and bar chop with 35's.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:04 pm**

Lookin real good joe but can't help thinkin it looks like it needs a small chassis extension. Probably just me. You gonna put a cooler on your diesel? seen a shit hot set up on another post where they're using laminova cores. Top looking product that would suit your quality build.

Posted: **Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:32 pm**

ferrit wrote:
Struth wrote:Looks like a lot of PJs are required for this job

Are you not concerned about the torsional loads the upper spring mounts will apply to the smal lux chassis?

My engineer is and has requested a cross member either over or under the engine to remove such loads?

His advice makes sense to me, but is he underating the Hi Lux chassis?

And thanks for the thread, it's a good example.

Cheers
If im not mistaken, doesnt IFS induce a torsional load on the chassis already? I know leafs will induce a stretching load.

and doesnt an engine wedged between the two spring towers count as a brace?

You get different rotational forces between IFS and coil, also the IFS system in a Lux already has a very meaty crossmember arrangement to take the loads at the right points, ie: where the torsion bar meets the chassis near the top of the chassis, this member gets cut out when coiling.

I wouldn't reccomend using the engine mounts as part of a cross member either

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:03 pm**

well, first drive today. all seemed well though i may add some air to the tyres as i think they are sitting on less than 10psi

peformance was pretty good with the 80 ratios, and once the tray has been re-fitted some more tweaks may be required.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:21 pm**

Top job, awesome thread. Many ppl should learn from this thread....

Outer Limits 4x4 Board

80'S IN A LUX...ONE WAY OF DOING IT.

iih

Good shit