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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:44 pm
by chook05
Sorry, the opening was just too good, I couldn't resist, it was meant in friendly humour, I would seriously help you if I could, I got my stuck tongue out by putting the towbar in the vice then bashing with the lump hammer, it's not going to help you though and it wasn't that badly stuck.[/quote]yes the topic discription was ment to get you to look at it 663 veiws at last count YOU BUNCH OFF DEVEITES
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:10 pm
by pridhac
I went through exactly this problem with my 75 earlier this year.
The reason I wanted the tongue out was because it kept getting (me) stuck in creekbeds. I had only recently bought the ute and how long the tongue had been in place was completely unknown, could have been 20 years.
I tried all of the above, WD40, chained to a tree (my brothers mother in law went running inside squeeling 'they're trying to pull a tree down!!! rotflmao) big hammers, hammering whilst pulling chained to a tree etc etc ad nauseam. Nothing worked.
I ended up with the whole bar off (only snapped one bolt). With oxy and a 20T hydraulic press, the tongue still wouldn't budge. Found someone with a 40T press, oxy in use again, and very slowly, the tongue emerged.
Haven't been stuck in a creek since.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:19 pm
by GOT MUD
on the gu we just bought i found that the tongue was stuck solid heaps of wd40 and then i drifted it from the back of the towbar out towards the back of the car took a few good belts but work in the end but on my ute that was a lot more drama it wouldnt budge what ever i did so in the ehd i oxyed the exposed bit off then ran the oxy inside the bit left in until i was right though then hammered a chisel in between the towbar and the tongue until it folded inside the towbar to give enough room to push it out
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:57 pm
by mikmav
Just had this problem on my GU. I dont think it was stuck quite as badly as some of the previous posts, however I used a different method to get it out.
I took the tow ball off, mounted it upside down, then put a bottle jack between the ball and the main beam of the tow bar assembly.
Tie the jack in place so it doesnt go flying if it slips out or anything.
For each few winds of the jack, give the bar a hit. This would move it out a few mm with each hit. Took a little while.. but worked well.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:34 pm
by nottie
I got one out in the past by taking it to an engineer shop and they put it in a huge press and pushed it out that way. Only cost me $10
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:35 pm
by Chucky
shackel through the bolt hole, chained to a tree, low range, some numbers and out with the clutch.
Worked well when I needed it done
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:05 pm
by mikmav
no big tree's at my place.. yay for suburbia..
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:18 pm
by troopy94
we had the same problem and used a 200 hp 4wd tractor and a large sledge hammer it took some serious hitting but worked
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:35 am
by V8Patrol
nottie wrote:I got one out in the past by taking it to an engineer shop and they put it in a huge press and pushed it out that way. Only cost me $10
Must be the season for it
We have 4 drawbars at work at the moment with stuck tounges to be removed..... ( all ex farm 4x4's )
2 HaymenReece style bars and 2 of the old bolt on type.
One of the bars ( a H/R ) also requires a straightening after some "suggested" to the owner that chaining it to a tree and driving off would "pull" the hitch out....... apparently he tried this several times increasing his speed with each attempt until the bar gave up .... which resulted in a 150mm deflection in the bar !!!
Take it to a specialist .... they know how to fix it and have the gear required
Kingy
p/s
if it arrived here with a stuck tounge and a bent bar...... expect the bill to show your stupidity level accordingly !
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:30 am
by love ke70
V8Patrol wrote:nottie wrote:I got one out in the past by taking it to an engineer shop and they put it in a huge press and pushed it out that way. Only cost me $10
Must be the season for it
We have 4 drawbars at work at the moment with stuck tounges to be removed..... ( all ex farm 4x4's )
2 HaymenReece style bars and 2 of the old bolt on type.
One of the bars ( a H/R ) also requires a straightening after some "suggested" to the owner that chaining it to a tree and driving off would "pull" the hitch out....... apparently he tried this several times increasing his speed with each attempt until the bar gave up .... which resulted in a 150mm deflection in the bar !!!
Take it to a specialist .... they know how to fix it and have the gear required
Kingy
p/s
if it arrived here with a stuck tounge and a bent bar...... expect the bill to show your stupidity level accordingly !
lol, and how was the chassis?
surely putting a 150mm deflection in a steel bar that is bolted to both chassis rails would have a tendency of trying to bend them?
if your worried about the captives breaking their welds there is two options.
get a bloody big rattle gun and undo them that way, much less chance of breaking captives.
if not.
if you have access to the captives, get someone to lean their weight the other way against the nut as you strain your valve undoing the bolt. should stop it snapping the welds
anyway, sounds like your cruiser is all rusted out, sell it and get a nissan
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:13 am
by BrettInUte
We had this problem in a MK we bought.
We tried wd40, pushing, pulling, punches, jiggling. Long range tank meant little access to the back of the pull.
We ended up anchoring a chain from the pull to a tractor, then used a hydraulic jack off the chassis onto the tongue - we had a heap of pressure and it only moved a few MM. Then we went to work with 2 sledgehammers onto the sides + top + bottom of tongue.
I took about 3 hours of us BOTH using sledgehammers at the one time.
but we got it out. Wrecked the tongue doing it. Bent the hydraulic jack too.
Was 3/4 rusted in. We made sure we cleaned all the hitch surfaces before fitting another tougue. It was still tight.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:53 am
by motoking
10 ton snatch strap, solid object and heavy right foot
back past the solid object untill the snatch strap wont allow you to go any futher backwards and then plant it. I managed to remove the tounge from my sisters car doing this and i didnt even remove the bolts
ps. make sure your the only one stupid enough to be within a killometer flying towballs hurt.
pps. my solid object was a very stuck lwb zook and the car was a camary after i removed the ball i just used the bobcat and forks and lifted the zook out.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:52 pm
by Mark2
Very common problem.
The only thing which worked for me was removing the entire bar and using a press from the back.
My 20t press did it, but it struggled. These days, I put a smear of grease on the tongue when it goes back in.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:32 am
by V8Patrol
love ke70 wrote:V8Patrol wrote:One of the bars ( a H/R ) also requires a straightening after some "suggested" to the owner that chaining it to a tree and driving off would "pull" the hitch out....... apparently he tried this several times increasing his speed with each attempt until the bar gave up .... which resulted in a 150mm deflection in the bar !!!
lol, and how was the chassis?
surely putting a 150mm deflection in a steel bar that is bolted to both chassis rails would have a tendency of trying to bend them?
No "surely" about it
A portapower fixed the chassis rails very quickly.
The tow bar was an easy straighten up too
The tounge however was well n truely stuck, at 32ton pressure it still wasnt budging
We ended up cutting it off and fitting another receiver and tounge from a wreckers.
I cut it open later on in the big saw....... the pitting and rust balls were the worst I've ever seen, just as well I chickened out on the press, 60ton may have been ugly.... The thing would have collapsed before releasing !
Kingy