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Instead of making the alloy thing, why didnt you just bolt the coils in top and bottom?

joeblow wrote:well, first drive today.

Looks good

so its got plates on it. Does this mean its been engineered already? or just doing some testing?

Just wondering how the engineer responded to the radius arms mounting to the gear box cross member?

Struth wrote:

ferrit wrote:

Struth wrote:Looks like a lot of PJs are required for this job


Are you not concerned about the torsional loads the upper spring mounts will apply to the smal lux chassis?

My engineer is and has requested a cross member either over or under the engine to remove such loads?

His advice makes sense to me, but is he underating the Hi Lux chassis?

And thanks for the thread, it's a good example.

Cheers

If im not mistaken, doesnt IFS induce a torsional load on the chassis already? I know leafs will induce a stretching load.

and doesnt an engine wedged between the two spring towers count as a brace?

You get different rotational forces between IFS and coil, also the IFS system in a Lux already has a very meaty crossmember arrangement to take the loads at the right points, ie: where the torsion bar meets the chassis near the top of the chassis, this member gets cut out when coiling.


I wouldn't reccomend using the engine mounts as part of a cross member either

So do you think you'd need additional crossmembers if you chucked coils under a 106 with the solid axle already?

(im scheming here...)

Nice build mate, wish I had the equipment and talent to do stuff like this!

80's_delirious wrote:

joeblow wrote:well, first drive today.

Looks good

so its got plates on it. Does this mean its been engineered already? or just doing some testing?

Just wondering how the engineer responded to the radius arms mounting to the gear box cross member?

I was also wondering how strong that would be i have hit 30cm deep washouts at 100 kph i cannot imagine the stretch load on the front 2 bolts on each side while doing this
especially with the added leverage induced by the arm this will create massive turning moment trying to twist the crossmember off the chassis
it would be fine for rock crawling slow speed work but not as strong as factory chassis mounted brackets and could come unstuck when used as a tourer on hi speed dirt

ferrit wrote:

Struth wrote:

ferrit wrote:

Struth wrote:Looks like a lot of PJs are required for this job


Are you not concerned about the torsional loads the upper spring mounts will apply to the smal lux chassis?

My engineer is and has requested a cross member either over or under the engine to remove such loads?

His advice makes sense to me, but is he underating the Hi Lux chassis?

And thanks for the thread, it's a good example.

Cheers

If im not mistaken, doesnt IFS induce a torsional load on the chassis already? I know leafs will induce a stretching load.

and doesnt an engine wedged between the two spring towers count as a brace?

You get different rotational forces between IFS and coil, also the IFS system in a Lux already has a very meaty crossmember arrangement to take the loads at the right points, ie: where the torsion bar meets the chassis near the top of the chassis, this member gets cut out when coiling.


I wouldn't reccomend using the engine mounts as part of a cross member either

So do you think you'd need additional crossmembers if you chucked coils under a 106 with the solid axle already?

(im scheming here...)

I think you would probably be ok, dependant on how Toyota did it in the first place, unlike the Hi Lux the 106 chassis has been designed to accept coils, just keep the coils tucked in close to the chassis, if you hang them further out from the chassis than is really necessary you will multiply the torsional load they put on the chassis and will be more likely to break the chassis

Nice build.
How did you get the exhaust around the two fuel tanks?
I guess that they are both Lux fuel tanks.

awesome job mate, and quality workman ship to, great to see someone take the time and do it properly and not half arsed

Awesome thread , going to have to put this one in my favs. just got gifted a coiled Gq wagon with disc's all round. trying to get ideas on how i might paste them under my hilux this has been an awesome read...

hey question for you. how do you go about getting your monts on there nice a sweet and everything good so you alignment is a good. i have had my own thoughts but would like to know how the pro's go about it