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LSD in Sierra
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:17 am
by JayCee83
I have searched and just have a few more questions.
Firstly please correct me if any information i have got is wrong
Is the rear diff in a 91 sierra 3.7 ratio
I have been told that a 2000 Jimny lsd will bolt straight in (3.9 ratio) - is this true and are they the same spine?
Also does the 1lt sierra front diffs have 3.9 ratio, if so will the whole diff centre bolt up to the front diff housing in a 1.3lt sierra? If they do, are the splines the same or do you have to change the side gears?
Any information would be great

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:10 am
by Nev
Don't know about your Jimny rear LSD but a NT 1.3L centre is what your after for the front to match a 3.9 ratio. It's a 4 pin carrier too I believe not a 2 like the WT. The 1L diffs are a 4.1 ratio.
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:43 am
by JayCee83
Please excuse my ignorance but what is the difference between a 4 pin carrier and 2 pin carrier. Thanks for the info too, now i know what i am looking for

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:52 am
by lay80n
The pins refer to the number of roll pins fitted to the carrier. A four pin looks like a lsd due to its enclosed hemisphere, where as a 2 pin is more open (like a hilux if you have seen one of these). In regards to the LSD, why not get a locker. LSD's are pretty rubbish really offroad without tightening up, and they will wear out.
Layto....
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:58 am
by JayCee83
Thanks for that. I already have a locker but in the comp that I enter I am not allowed to use it (dont want to go to the other class). However, I am allowed to use an LSD and it will be shimmed up (to the comp specifications of course)
I am in the process of finding out if the gears in the locker can be changed to match a 3.9 ratio, if so I will be putting the locker in the front and I wont have to worry about the NT diff but I am just finding out my options at the moment.
So just to clarify the NT 1.3lt diff will bolt straight into the front without a problem?
Thanks for the help
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:14 am
by mugginsmoo
in OZ, you'll be lucky if you can find a 3.9 jimny diff.
even though the specs say that the auto jimny has a 3.9. all of the auto diffs that i've found have a ratio of 4.090 (same as the manuals).
the current diffs in my jimny are 4.090 and they are out of an auto.
Mitch
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:58 am
by JayCee83
I am in the process of finding out if the gears in the locker can be changed to match a 3.9 ratio, if so I will be putting the locker in the front and I wont have to worry about the NT diff but I am just finding out my options at the moment.
Just realised that I dont need to change the gears as I will be using the gears out of the 1.3 NT diff
Does anyone know if the lockers for the 1.3 WT rear diff will fit into a 1.3 NT front diff????
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:25 pm
by timthev8man
yes they will
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:38 pm
by JayCee83
Thanks - what spline is the NT 1.3 diff?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:14 pm
by JayCee83
in OZ, you'll be lucky if you can find a 3.9 jimny diff.
even though the specs say that the auto jimny has a 3.9. all of the auto diffs that i've found have a ratio of 4.090 (same as the manuals).
the current diffs in my jimny are 4.090 and they are out of an auto.
Mitch
I just found out that the 3.9 ratio is out of manual jimny not an auto, now i just need to find one

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:06 pm
by JayCee83
I have spoken to nearly every major suzuki workshop/wreckers and everyone is saying that no jimny ever came out with an lsd

I know that the Japan version did but there is no way to get me hands on one of them - people only import the motors and performance parts.
I know for a fact that someone had a Jimny lsd in their sierra but I dont know which model jimny he got that from. Can anyone shed some light on this situation

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:17 pm
by Zute
You can buy a LSD from Calmini.
The front diffs have smaller axles. So the side gears have to be changed or big after market axle kit fitted to fit a rear in the front.
http://www.puresuzuki.com/Limited_Slip.htm
Lots of good info there.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:35 pm
by JayCee83
Thanks zute. I looked at these a while ago but I was trying to get away from that cost but by the looks of things the price difference compared with the hassel isn't worth it
Are these limos made for the rear - that where i want to put it?
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:42 pm
by Zute
Yep, they buy them from the factory. you have to change the front axles to fit them up front.
What comps do you do and what class do you run. Would like to do some myself.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:01 pm
by JayCee83
I currently compete in Tough Tracks Trophy class. It is an unlocked class with max 33" tyres.
This is why I would like a limo as you are allowed them in this class only if they come out standard for that make of car (import or not). I currently have a locker in the rear but obviously cant use it in this comp so I want to put a limo in the rear and the locker in the front.
If you want to start doing comps it is a good one to try, next round is the 26/27 May at Landcruiser. Here is the link if you are interested
http://www.toughtracks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131
comps
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:25 pm
by cityview
There is also the City-View Trials , next round is Feb 24th - 25th. phone 0424568886 for details.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 pm
by nicbeer
Are u allowed to weld the diff? as the internal bits are original + adding weld.
Also reading the regs - what front recovery point do you have?
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:52 am
by JayCee83
Are u allowed to weld the diff? as the internal bits are original + adding weld.
Sorry Nicbeer - no locked diffs of any kind
Also reading the regs - what front recovery point do you have?
My tow point on the front is just a standard tow hook that is welded to the top of the chassie. Are you looking at entering?
lsd
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:06 pm
by noelb1
have you looked at an x90 limmo don't know if they fit
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:18 pm
by nicbeer
JayCee83 wrote:
Also reading the regs - what front recovery point do you have?
My tow point on the front is just a standard tow hook that is welded to the top of the chassie. Are you looking at entering?
maybe but local WA ones only. just need to get one on mine and investigating ideas.
Nic
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:39 pm
by JayCee83
have you looked at an x90 limmo don't know if they fit
What are they out of?
lsd
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:15 pm
by noelb1
suzuki x90
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:03 pm
by Guy
doubt it as the X90 has more in common with a vit that a sierra .. rear diff and all ...
lsd
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:36 am
by noelb1
not sure just know they have an lsd