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Hey guys, i finally ahave saved all the money i need, i just have to find out which tire is better and why? I have the coin for both, either mungrels or maxxis buckshots. Thanks heaps!

Better for?

I dont understand what you mean, but if you mean what will i be doin, im an all rounder, hit anything and everything!

will these be on the car all the time ?

if so give the mongrels a miss, soft compound will wear out too quick.

if you are looking at the Maxxis, have a look at the Bighorn, it has a little bit better side wall and the tread come a little further down

Oh yeh, i saw them, they look pretty good and tuff. Um the mongrels will be for the weekend only, are they stronger than the maxxis? I think that they would have better grip considering the copy of centipede? With thanks

if they are just for weekend fun, then yeah go the mogrels if you can get them

as i mentioned the soft compound will wear out quick on the black top, but as
you will be only running them off road you will find the soft compound will
grip like there is no tomorrow

i run a set of Motorway Muddies on my rig and have been very happy
all except the wear as i do run mine all the time, but for $110 a tyre fitted
i can't really complain

110 a tire fitted!! What size are yours?? The guy wants 200 a corner for 32x10.5 r15?? is that a rip job?? Thanks m8

So is 200 a corner for the 32's a rip off??? And what is a remould?? Cheers

Lux_89 wrote:So is 200 a corner for the 32's a rip off??? And what is a remould?? Cheers

old tire carcas with a new tread glued on.

google for it, more info there.

thanks m8. I cant see how the mongrels can be a remould, they dont say they are on the site, they are sold as a brand new tire, so i dont get it.. Thanks for all your help everyone, with thanks chris

Lux_89 wrote:So is 200 a corner for the 32's a rip off??? And what is a remould?? Cheers

i was quoted 185 for 32x10.5 and thats in tassie.

the 31's are 175.

ive only found 2 places here that are willing to sell them and only one place actually has them in stock

and mongrels ARE a remould

Yeh well im in brizzy so might be a different story, you had much experience with these tires m8?

nah sorry. no experience as yet

but at 60 bux or so cheaper than anything else ive looked at im getten them regardless.

have spoke to afew people about them tho and they are impressed with traction etc.

well yeh considering they have the same pattern as the centipede, they must be good.. and i was told, that they will bag out 2.5 times wider at 6 psi then at road 37 psi!! Hows that!!

Lux_89 wrote:well yeh considering they have the same pattern as the centipede, they must be good.. and i was told, that they will bag out 2.5 times wider at 6 psi then at road 37 psi!! Hows that!!

um..................Bovine faeces. Think about it. Say they bag out to 11 (which considering the thread is 10.5inch wide, and the side wall shouldnt be toushing the ground) inches overall, what your saying is that they will only have a contact patch width of 4.4 inches at 37psi. they saw you coming a mile away. Bagging out width wise is not the important thing. Its the length of the tyres footpring that is the major change when pressures are dropped. Drop a tyre to offroad pressure. The sidewall that bags isnt in contact with the ground, but the contact patch will lengthen greatly. A bagging sidewall is also more likley to suffer from punctures/tears too unless you have heavy duty sidewalls like claws or TSL/SX swampers.

Layto....

hahahaha, thats soo tru, to belive that, what a dick i am.. hahahaha. My age got the better of me, thanks for the pointer. cheers

Lux_89 wrote: cant see how the mongrels can be a remould, they dont say they are on the site, they are sold as a brand new tire, so i dont get it..

http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/products/

This site clearly describes how they are made... they do not hide it at all.

*Motorway re-manufactures a broad range of passenger tyre profiles and tread

*Motorway manufactures a range of light commercial remoulds and cold caps

*Motorway manufactures pre cure treads with a large range of tread patterns which are based on the world's commonly used patterns. We utilise these pre cure treads in our own tyre retread production and we supply pre cure treads to competing retreading facilities in Australia and New Zealand. We also provide a capping service for customers who provide us with their own tyre casings.

i run 31 x 10.5 on my rig

and yes the Mongrels are a remold, but this is different to a recap,
a recap is only a new tread glued on, a remold is not just the tread but the
whole side wall aswell so you end up with a slightly thicker side wall

and $200 a corner is not too bad, as i said i run the Muddie not the Mongrels
but in saying that i can get the 33 x 12.5 Mongrel for about $180 fitted

also a good idea is to run a set of simex tubes inside, this will let you run
a lower psi without a bead lock, they will set you back about another $30
a corner

My mate runs Mongrel 33's on his Mav. Great tyres! I wish they made 35's

He had a little bit of the re-mould peeling slightly on the inner sidewall (was not a problem at all) of one tyre with about 70% tread left and they replaced it with a brand spanker. How's that for service.

they do have a life time warratee on the workman ship

i have had 2 replaced, due to a manufacture problem
and they even gave me a secondhand 31" as i needed something to get me by till the replacement came

even thought i have had 2 replaced, i will still use them again as the have
no problem backing up their product, and as i have said before they do grip like hell

Well I have a set of 32x11.5 buckshots. They are great for everything so far. Road and mud especially. Only cost me $185 per tyre I think, from Fourby's.

Turbz.

I took my Maxxis buckshots on the beach for the first time today, actually went way better than BFG mud terrains, quite happy. Got 2000kms on them (mostly bitumen ) and they still hav e some little nubbies on the tread blocks...
All up, so far, I'm stoked, but I don't do hard core rock crawl stuff, coz I drive a fat arse Bronco

ive got buckshots. i used to swear by mtr's but these came on my new patrol. I swore black n blue id get them off my car asap but they are that good im not gunna bother. They are better onroad than mtr's and not much worse offroad at all.............. could use a little more side tread tho.
for the coin ive found nothing that beats them.

motorways are very stiff in the side wall due to the remoulding and you dont get a choice of what carcase they are built on.

they do have a service that you can take in you own carcase and have them remolded on

I wouldn't waste your money on Mongrels personally, I found they gripped about as well as most all terrains I have tried except in mud. Traction is mainly in the treads compound and a tyres cleaning ability is in its design. I vote Goodyear MTR's all the way but can't comment on the maxxis as haven't tried them. I have also owned simex centipedes and to compare mongrels to them is simply a joke...even my nankang mudstars gripped better than the mongrels in most conditions. Mongrels only if you just drive mud. Just my opinion from my experiences though.

Simex centrepede M/T's true 31x10.5x15 $180 a pop Awsome on rocks, mud, sand. Not to noisy on road

mrRocky wrote:Simex centrepede M/T's true 31x10.5x15 $180 a pop Awsome on rocks, mud, sand. Not to noisy on road

yeah ive heard some good things about these. Whats the wear like?