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how high should i go?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:55 pm
by j-top paj
currently running a 3" lift and 35s..
with the fron swaybar disconnected i scrub a little in the front.
and the types of tracks/lines i drive i scrape a bit here and there.

have been thinking of going 6" maybe 8" but not sure....
atm it drives fine onroad and id like to keep it like that as its my daily driver.

anyone run a 6" lift or bigger on a GU as a DD?

also, ive got the castor corrected for 3" so if i were to go to a 5" would i need to do anything to the castor?
ive heard people say that for 2" lift theres no need to touch castor.
im assuming that if its corrected back to standard for the 3" then if i went 5" it would be only 2" over what it is now so it would be fine?

opinions??

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:03 pm
by A1
Would you rather scrape here and there or put it on its side due to a large lift .....keep it low .....add bars for protection ........

I dont have GU experience ....but I have GQ SWB experience and yes it ended up on its side ........



If you must add more lift keep it @ 4" lift total


MY 0.02 cents worth k bye ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:12 am
by weeman
you need to ask yourself what your trying achieve to big lift?

as the other bloke said to high and you'll put it on its side and Gu's arent cheap to repair.

if you got money burning in your pocket why not fit a set of lockers and get some decent offroad tyres like some swampers or simex's.

then do your hard stuff then re asses it then..

if its for looks i wouldnt waste your time....

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:18 am
by bogged
weeman wrote:if its for looks i wouldnt waste your time....
My god Morks, you will get hung saying bling isnt important on this board :rofl: :rofl:


wtf you need an 8inch lift for? You going to run 54's?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:24 am
by Brendan-s
Rick from BBMotorsport ran 40s on his 80 Series with a 4in lift...

IMO anything over 6in is silly... 8in is absurb.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:33 am
by weeman
bogged wrote: My god Morks, you will get hung saying bling isnt important on this board :rofl: :rofl:


wtf you need an 8inch lift for? You going to run 54's?
yeah i know... but it has to be said i dont want people to make the same mistake i did...

Someone i knew put 8" coils in his wagon was a one day lift apparently lol went back to 4" but he was running 37's.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:44 am
by Tiny
I wouldnt go any more than a 5", and yes you will need to corret the castor

you pissed at getting stuck on that mound the other day?? :lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:55 am
by j-top paj
Tiny wrote:
you pissed at getting stuck on that mound the other day?? :lol:
:oops:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:06 am
by j-top paj
ive already got a locker, i have bars except for the rear.
im going to stick to 35s as thats what its engineered for.
does anyone know where to measure height of the headlights? its gotta be 1.2m or under but is that from the top of the headlight? the middle or the bottom?
the only reason i thought 8" was because its the same price as 6" but i did think it was a little too high.
im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
im not interested in looks or anything, i actually like it how it looks now. it all looks in proportion.
i just dont like scraping on things all the time. and after riping my tail light out the other week i decided to look into getting a little more height.
id prefer to just do a custom rear bar and get rid of the plastic crap but i have to keep an eye on weight. im already 2.64t empty.
add some camping gear for a weekend and a passenger and im on gvm

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:46 am
by jessie928
go 6"

either 6" spring outright

or 4" spring and 2" body.

the second options gives you loads more room under the vehicle for stuff, but sacrificing a couple inched chassis clearance.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:07 am
by bogged
j-top paj wrote:im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
Theres nothing to say you wont get hooked up sometimes with a 4/6/8/10inch lift.

What is getting hooked up? Your diffs, or just th rear bar?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:44 am
by Tiny
bogged wrote:
j-top paj wrote:im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
Theres nothing to say you wont get hooked up sometimes with a 4/6/8/10inch lift.

What is getting hooked up? Your diffs, or just th rear bar?
he got hooked up on the chassis driving something like this

Image
:lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:53 am
by grimbo
worried about scraping at full flex, then adjust your bump stops to stop that. worried about breaking your lights, then going higher is only goin gto make it worse as you'll get more body lean. Make some sort of guards for the lights

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:54 am
by jessie928
Tiny wrote:
bogged wrote:
j-top paj wrote:im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
Theres nothing to say you wont get hooked up sometimes with a 4/6/8/10inch lift.

What is getting hooked up? Your diffs, or just th rear bar?
he got hooked up on the chassis driving something like this

Image
:lol:
maybe you need a blade and a hydrolic ram attched to the bullbar to negate the need for lift :)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:55 am
by rvh96
I run 6inch suspension lift in my gu as a daily driver and apart from getting in and out of it it drives fine.It doesnt raise the centre of gravity all that much and i dont use sway bars

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:08 pm
by AFeral
I run a 2 inch body and 2inch suspension lift. have yet to find it has held me back. With the lockers as well. Between 2-4 inchs suspension lift is all I think is needed.
I'm planning on spring retainers and longer shocks next to get the flex with a lower center of gravity.
6 and 8 inch lifts, seem to be more about looks rather than how well it performs, in my experiance

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:22 pm
by dirtyGQ
yeh i run 75mm springs with 30mm packer and they have sagged heaps and was getting hung up bad last time i was out so now going a 5 inch (will sag to be 4-4 1/2 ) lift,thought about 6 but i have seen too many struggle for stability on hill climbs etc so yes i think 4 is heaps for most things. I dont want to mess with running castor plates to impede me further so i am going with 2dextreme arms .

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:53 pm
by blackmav
I'm kinda suprised you would even consider going to 8 inch.
You have been around the scene a fair while now and done heaps of wheeling with probably lots of different setups. Surely you would see the benifits and disadvantages of each.

How many tracks out there that you frequent really need that sort of rampover?
The day you came to Yawall with me you drove everything that I did and you were heaps more worried about damage on the outside of your car than the underneath. So i wonder how worried you will be when your trucks leaning towards rolling into oblivion :D

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:07 pm
by pongo
jessie928 wrote:
Tiny wrote:
bogged wrote:
j-top paj wrote:im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
Theres nothing to say you wont get hooked up sometimes with a 4/6/8/10inch lift.

What is getting hooked up? Your diffs, or just th rear bar?
he got hooked up on the chassis driving something like this

Image
:lol:
maybe you need a blade and a hydrolic ram attched to the bullbar to negate the need for lift :)
JUst a bigger run up and ya should clear it :D

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:29 pm
by blackmav
My vote would be




Grinder




GU patrol




37s or better :armsup:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:10 pm
by j-top paj
jessie928 wrote:go 6"

either 6" spring outright

or 4" spring and 2" body.

the second options gives you loads more room under the vehicle for stuff, but sacrificing a couple inched chassis clearance.
not doing body lift, too much stuffing around and then i have to get it re-engineered too

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:13 pm
by j-top paj
bogged wrote:
j-top paj wrote:im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
Theres nothing to say you wont get hooked up sometimes with a 4/6/8/10inch lift.

What is getting hooked up? Your diffs, or just th rear bar?
occasionally diffs, but mostly front and rear. and also rampover

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:15 pm
by j-top paj
Tiny wrote:
bogged wrote:
j-top paj wrote:im thinking 5" or 6" maybe then?
Theres nothing to say you wont get hooked up sometimes with a 4/6/8/10inch lift.

What is getting hooked up? Your diffs, or just th rear bar?
he got hooked up on the chassis driving something like this

Image
:lol:
what happened to the pic? :?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:33 pm
by Tiny
no pic, just a childish drawing from paintshop :lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:38 pm
by j-top paj
:lol: :oops:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:51 pm
by ozy1
we have 6" in my old mans GU, and we dont have a problem with it, it handles well on and off road, you just need to pick your lines, so you dont put it over, 8" is waytoo much,


also, the 1200mm headlight measrement is to the top of the headlight, my old mans GU measured in at 1250 on 35s, we out a winch in, and it didnt budge, so we went the next step, we pulled out the old 2.8T and put in a 4.2turbo, it now measures in at 1225, so we are neary there,

we just got itengneered using a guy that didnt measure the headlight height, it all comes down to who yu use,

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:08 pm
by RoldIT
j-top paj wrote:
jessie928 wrote:go 6"

either 6" spring outright

or 4" spring and 2" body.

the second options gives you loads more room under the vehicle for stuff, but sacrificing a couple inched chassis clearance.
not doing body lift, too much stuffing around and then i have to get it re-engineered too
Ummm ... you think an 8" lift is NOT going to require stuffing around?

You think an 8" lift is NOT going to require re-engineering?


Either you're taking the piss or you need to do more reading on this topic before asking anymore questions as you're just going to embarrass yourself ... more than you already have! :roll:

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:07 pm
by j-top paj
RoldIT wrote: You think an 8" lift is NOT going to require re-engineering?
why do you think i asked about headlight height :roll:

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:56 pm
by udm
Matt, if you wanna go 6, just try it... at the end, nobody ever regrets it.

My cruiser (yeah, i know yours is a patrol) was standard (not happy), later it was 4" higher (still not happy), and some more months later it went up to 6" (happy now)

EDIT. I dont think i would go any higher...

Ulises

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:39 pm
by Nelso
Where as mine went from 2" to 2+2, then 4+2 and for some stupid reason thought I needed to go bigger and went to 7+2 which of course was too big. Now I've gone back to between 4 and 5" springs and I want to take my body lift out (as soon as I find someone to buy my bar-work) and trim the guards to run the 37s. I know a 5 inch spring lift with 35s works really well with a GU and the tyres don't scrub. If you feel you have to go bigger than your current height, I wouldn't go over that.