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LWB 1.3 L zook
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:27 pm
by CWBYUP
Just trying to find some info about LWB zooks.
Did they ever come with a 1.3L ?
What about in a WT version ?
Cheers Nick
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:24 pm
by icekayak
yes there was definately a 1985 Suzuki Sierra LWB (convertable) 1.3L NT... not sure about anythign else
Re: LWB 1.3 L zook
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:42 pm
by largesuzy
CWBYUP wrote:Just trying to find some info about LWB zooks.
Did they ever come with a 1.3L ?
What about in a WT version ?
Cheers Nick
mines a 1.3ltr long wheel base and its for sale
(shameless plug)
but not wt, it on came out as a maturi and chances of you find one are about buckleys to none easiest thing to do is get a 1.3 ltr and convert
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:08 pm
by Highway-Star
I was always under the impression that there was a WT LWB made (never a coily though). I've got a scanned copy of an '88 or '89 Sierra catalogue and it has one for a body option (photo too). I can't recall the web site I found the catalogue on, found it ages ago when looking for something else. I know for a fact they were definently sold overseas, seen websites with guys modding them. Despite all this, I have never seen one in the flesh, funny that?
If you want a copy of that catalogue I can e-mail it to you, just PM me (its poor quality but gets the mesage across).
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:28 pm
by DSzuke
they were brought out in oz as a LWB widetrack (1.3l) for only one year.
I think it was either 1986 or '87 but can't be sure on that.
and yes... they are very rare and are snapped up real quick. As mentioned most people convert a NT as they are easier to find.
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:58 pm
by NIK
When you go lux diffs nt or wt dosnt matter
Mines an 85 nt lwb and the only wt ones ive seen are maruti with wt width 1lt axles. But thats not to say they dont exist.
Nik
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:07 pm
by Nev
When they converted over to WT in August 88, the LWB was also built for a short time with the same WT diffs. I think some were released as late as 89 but they are very rare. I was once told there was only around 200-300 ever sold in Aus but this is just heresay. After that they went back to farm hack maruti's with WT 1L diffs and 1L engine. As for the LWB NT, quite a few of them in 1.3L format including mine. They were made from sometime in 84 through to 87 I'm pretty sure.
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:38 pm
by ofr57
LWB came in NT as a tray back like mine .. or the style side soft top that can have four seats still ... most of these have been turned into style side utes though
i used to only know of 2 lwb utes on the GC ...
mine (the black one)
rods - one stop suzi shop (yellow)
well now I've seen acouple more
a light blue one
a purpley blue one ...
an another yellow one
so how many did come over here?
as for wt LWB ... there was a chassie for sale last year up on the sunny cost .. so yes there real dunno what the body would look like though
as for other things I think over seas there was a lwb coily ... also an extra cab maruti i think
I've heard about a four door too but i dont really belive that
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:32 am
by Longbaser
G'day.
To give it its correct name code, the NT 1.3 LWB styleside softop was the SJ413W and they have always been as rare as rocking horse manure! The other NT LWB was the SJ413K (hardtop cabin with flatbed, correctly known as a pick-up, a flatbed is not a ute).
Nev, your information of 200 - 300 probably applies to the SJ413W, there would be even fewer of the WT LWB versions. It may seem strange now to those of us who own one, but the LWB never rang the right bells with Aussie buyers back in the eighties.
After a big-time shunt in '87 forced me to give up motorbikes, I bought a SWB 1.0 litre Sierra but only a couple months later I saw a 1985 LWB 1.3 in my local Zook dealer's yard and fell in love - it was mine an hour later and I still have it.
All the pressing dies etc were taken to India to become the Maruti when the plant in Japan was re-tooled to build the first Vitara. I've managed to get some strange parts from India, such as the plastic extensions that match the rear bumper to the WT flares, which I put on when rebuilding it six years ago. So yes, there was a WT version of the LWB. I have also seen pics of some 4-door versions, again Maruti but never sold in Oz.
And before anyone thinks to ask, mine is still a NT - I put on the factory flares just to confuse people!
(And to better cover the 7x15 alloys and Pirelli Scorpions...)
Anyone who thinks removing/erecting the roof of a SWB Zook is a pain has never done that on a LWB, it really is a bugger of a job. Mine still has its original vinyl roof, plus I scored a used Flexiglass canopy for it a few years back and I also have a full-length safari top (no sides, made of shadecloth) that I had made six years ago - fantastic right now in summer.
I've had it 20 years now, and would I sell it? Hell no, I've just put new doors and a new windscreen frame on it! Went berserk with Lanotec, these ones won't rust away so easily and it's still the best camping vehicle I can imagine. Still box-stock too.
Cheers - Gary.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:19 am
by offroader-rama
i have two lwb sierra's one of them a 1.3ltr 5sp 85 nt which is for sale and the other a lwb is a turbo'd 18ltr 82 nt and i have seen a lwb wt, there was one for sale near my house about a year ago for $3000 wish i had brought it.
but I'm converting my 82nt to wt (hilux diffs) if you are after a lwb let me know
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:09 am
by Remydog05
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:01 pm
by vicelore
lol 4 door !!! and the cab one lol never seen them before lol
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:14 am
by Gwagensteve
Genuine Japanese built WT LWB's were, to the best of my knowledge, only imported into NSW. NSW and NT suzuki's were imported by Ateco, and the rest of Australia was done by Suzuki australia, Based in Melbourne. They often received slightly different product.
I have seen a factory 1.3WT LWB for sate in Wangaratta, and reckon it might have originally been sold in Albury.
DroopyPete's dad also owns an original LWB 1.3 WT, Which I think Pete bought from a wrecker.
In case you are wondering if they are a conversion - The shape of the chassis around the rear spring hangers is a giveaway - on the factory 1.3 WT LWB it is totally unique and quite different to the Maruti.
Apart from being rare, I'm not sure the factory WT is an advantage. The wider spring pad spacing increases the cars roll stiffness, and off road this has the effect of reducing the articulation.
I am a big fan of LWB's- I own 2 - a 1,0 trayback and a 1.3 NT softtop, however, they are far less maneuverable than the SWB. due mostly to all of the front end components being the same as the SWB - No correction of ackerman etc for the longer WB.
Steve.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:25 am
by timthev8man
dont forget about the Maruti , they were wide tracks built in the 1990's
made in India from all the left over parts suzuki had, a cross between NT and WT parts but used WT diffs housings and chassis. still a Suzuki Sierra tho
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:45 am
by Gwagensteve
Tim, Not quite.
The diffs are WT width 1.0 litres and a re apparently quite easy to bend, chassis is not the same as the Japanese WT LWB, gearbox is a 4 speed and the engine is a 1 litre but with a 1.3 bolt pattern.
Build quality is atrocious and other than tub and rails, parts interchangeability is very poor. IMHO if you had enough time and skills and a WT donor car, you could build a decent car out of it by swapping all the 1.3 WT stuff over onto the Maruti tub and rails. As a starting point in their own right, I don't think I would bother.
Just my 2c worth.
Steve.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:23 am
by zooker
Gwagensteve wrote:Tim, Not quite.
The diffs are WT width 1.0 litres and a re apparently quite easy to bend,
What are the differences between a 1L diff and a WT diff apart from the ratio, im just curious because i have a WT Maruti and the diffs look the same as my mates WT sierra as far as i know.
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:33 am
by ljxtreem
zooker wrote:Gwagensteve wrote:Tim, Not quite.
The diffs are WT width 1.0 litres and a re apparently quite easy to bend,
What are the differences between a 1L diff and a WT diff apart from the ratio, im just curious because i have a WT Maruti and the diffs look the same as my mates WT sierra as far as i know.
Smaller diff centre and smaller CV's
Mock