Outer Limits 4x4 Board

What do you think the best engine swap for a sierra would be? This would be offroad only, so even a frontwheel drive engine turned north-south would be good (and lightweight).
Preferably the engine needs to be cheap and lightweight.

What would a commo v6 be like? too heavy over the front wheels?

What is the weight of a 1.3 ?

Cheers

Search on the engines you listen, I personally like the 4AGZE, but all depends on what you want out of it.

Layto....

g13bb
early jimny 1.3
throttle body (injection)
alloy block (lightweight)
already north south

the 4agze is a good motor.... for a corolla. yea its supercharged but its got a cast iron block which, when put in a zook, ruins its nimble characteristics, same deal with the commodore v6.

my 2c

i agree. What ever it is it has to be an alloy block to keep weight down. I have seen one a long time ago with an EXCELL 1.5 engine in it. Plenty of options are out there.

4age all the way. after i put it in my last sierra i would never go anything else. the power increase is unbelievable. and they are a really torquey motor aswell.

joel

Yeah the 4a series motors are cast iron, but there still isnt much of them. If you set them back so they sit near the firewall, the weight bias would probably be better than the commadore v6 conversion that every Newb thinks is the be all and end all of zook evolution

Layto....

lay80n wrote:Yeah the 4a series motors are cast iron, but there still isnt much of them. If you set them back so they sit near the firewall, the weight bias would probably be better than the commadore v6 conversion that every Newb thinks is the be all and end all of zook evolution

Layto....

Cause all the hardcore hilux drivers do it so must the zook drivers.

those people out there nocking the 4age motor in a zuke havnt had one !!
i run a 20V 4age and there is northing better , i've had the GTi the 18RG, turbo'd 13B, the only other conversion i would thing about is maybe the CA18DET. other than that the 4age is the best option, yes i modifty the firewall and move the t case back 3 inchs and mount it close tot he firewall. it is a big conversion tho.

jonamaphone1 wrote:g13bb
early jimny 1.3
throttle body (injection)
alloy block (lightweight)
already north south

the 4agze is a good motor.... for a corolla. yea its supercharged but its got a cast iron block which, when put in a zook, ruins its nimble characteristics, same deal with the commodore v6.

my 2c

early jimny has a cast iron block, muli-point injection.

i've got one

not much fun to fit to a sierra, you need to be not afraid of wiring. lots of issues with the tacho


Mitch

Best engine ? ..................... The one it came with. Fits real easly.


Instead of a crummydore engine, why not a Pajero 3.0ltr V6. Much more compact and lighter.

ge gze is the go,
the weight is not an issue, a gze will get the front wheels off the ground on the street

Ive only experienced stock 1300, datsun a15 with auto, modified 1300, and stock 8valve 1600 vit.
My choice would be the vit, easy to install, still zook so some parts are interchangable and the best usable power.
Nik

I'm still running stock 1.3

but the motors I'm looking at is the 1.6 16 value vit motor since its been done heaps there would be heaps of info doing it .. plus its leight

others motors I'm looking at is a 2 litre mopar motor only problem is its east west motor

or a 1.6TD golf motor

then theres this V4 I've heard about and a QUAD turbo 1.8 motor dunno what its out of though think there custom made

Has anybody tried putting in any of the datsun L series motors?? They have 1.6,1.8 and 2.0 litre varieties, parts are cheap, motors are cheap, there's loads of accessories you can get for them. You can even buy cams to suit your particular driving style.

Coxy

mugginsmoo wrote:

jonamaphone1 wrote:g13bb
early jimny 1.3
throttle body (injection)
alloy block (lightweight)
already north south

the 4agze is a good motor.... for a corolla. yea its supercharged but its got a cast iron block which, when put in a zook, ruins its nimble characteristics, same deal with the commodore v6.

my 2c

early jimny has a cast iron block, muli-point injection.

i've got one

not much fun to fit to a sierra, you need to be not afraid of wiring. lots of issues with the tacho


Mitch

i found it really easy to fit, only needed to worry about 4 wires, which were easy to find and i found no advantage to ripping the loom right back, and i didnt bother with the tacho as the drover dash didnt come with one.
i would have to say it would have to be one of the easiest engine conversions. No moving of engine mounts, bolts straight up to gbox, no need for different dizzy, ample power, smooth motor. efi etc etc

Spike_Sierra, is there any specific year model/types to look for with the Jimny motors?? Sounds like a piece of cake!!!

Coxy

mugginsmoo wrote:

jonamaphone1 wrote:g13bb
early jimny 1.3
throttle body (injection)
alloy block (lightweight)
already north south

the 4agze is a good motor.... for a corolla. yea its supercharged but its got a cast iron block which, when put in a zook, ruins its nimble characteristics, same deal with the commodore v6.

my 2c

early jimny has a cast iron block, muli-point injection.

i've got one

not much fun to fit to a sierra, you need to be not afraid of wiring. lots of issues with the tacho


Mitch

sure u dont have an m13a?
i dont know if they were cast iron, but i know they are multi point and have heaps of wiring issues

Just found this:

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2131/article.html

Its got all of the posible zook transplantable motors in there, with specs & their original car models.

The Vitara block/GTi Swift head conversion sounds interesting.......but i think i might just throw a set of pistons & rings in the old 1.3 for the moment.

Coxy

If anyone can tell me how to put up an excell spredsheet on here and I will show you all the research ive been doing on motors.

KW, Torque, Price, motor weight, box weight, and anything else I could think off.

Id be happy for anyone to tell me how wrong or right it maybe!

As far as I can tell the ca18det is the best on price, weight, KW/NM in stock form (reliablity!) and im told the autos are very strong too!

coxy321 I have a mate who has a 1.6 block and gti head with turbo set up. It gos awesome!!!!!!!!